File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu
Mon Feb 19 22:38:01 UTC 2018



On 02/19/18 14:56, John Johnstone wrote:
> On 2/19/18 12:56 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, February 19, 2018 12:20 am, @lbutlr wrote:
>>> On 2018-02-17 (11:44 MST), Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And here is the part where we two will fundamentally disagree. The 
>>>> truth
>>>> is, that Apple store offers you the latest version of given 
>>>> application.
>>>
>>> But that is simply not true. There are plenty of applications that I can
>>> reinstall on my old device that does not run the current OS, and I will
>>> get the version for the OS I am running, not the newest version of the
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Apple cannot give you a version of an application that the developer has
>>> removed from the App store, no matter how badly you want it, as it is 
>>> not
>>> theirs to give.
>>
>> I wonder if you could teach me how to install older version of some
>> application through apple store for which apple store already carries
>> newer version of application. What do I do on my iOS device (iPhone or
>> iPad) to choose different version of application than the one that 
>> pops up
>> in the search of app store.
>>
>> I don't care which application you choose as example, I just would 
>> like to
>> follow your step by step instruction. Once I am able to see one
>> (whichever) application for which I can choose one of two different
>> versions, I will happily admit that my statement was wrong. And I will
>> learn something. But so far I haven't seen the way to install older
>> version of some application (the version that was released when older
>> version on iOS was actively supported). But, of course, I did check all
>> applications that are in apple store.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Valeri
> 
> An iOS device can be used with or without iTunes.  Without iTunes, apps 
> install on the device directly from the App store and only the latest 
> app version is available with whatever iOS dependency it has from the 
> developer.  Some developers create new apps with a different name which 
> allows them to have similar apps in the store with different iOS 
> dependencies.
> 
> With older versions of iTunes (e.g. 10.6.2), apps are downloaded from 
> the App store into iTunes and stored locally in the iTunes app library. 
> Syncing with the iOS device with iTunes installs the app from the iTunes 
> library.  The local storing of apps in the iTunes app library was 
> removed in more recent versions of iTunes.
> 
> When restoring from a backup apps are restored from either the app 
> library with older versions of iTunes or directly from the App store 
> with the newer iTunes versions or in the case of iCloud backups.  You 
> then get whatever app version is available in the store at the time you 
> do the restore.
> 
> If this subject is important for someone they need to do some careful 
> research outside of this mailing list.  Because the behavior has changed 
> over time and varies with the different scenarios this is an area that 
> is not fully understood by many people.
> 

Thanks John. I know the options you listed. The situation I had with one 
person doesn't fit into them: device was wiped, but we hadn't back up of 
it...

And I do agree, even though I stand by my original statement, I will 
stop arguing here, mo matter what someone may say. This mail list is not 
the place for it.

My apologies that I didn't realize it earlier.

Valeri

> -
> John J.

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