HTTPS on, git, reproducible builds

William A. Mahaffey III wam at
Sat Sep 19 14:08:18 UTC 2015

On 09/19/15 08:39, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:50:23 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10:36AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>>>> Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw at> writes:
>>>>> freebsd-update builds is inreproducible by the freebsd-update-server bug[s].
>>>> freebsd-update will most likely be gone in 11.
>>> What is planed for replacement?
>> As far as I could understand, pkg will deal with the components
>> comprising the OS in the same manner as it does for the ports
>> collection. So the kernel, the userland, the sources and so on
>> will "become packages" for pkg to install or upgrade. This is
>> a similar approach to common package management on Linux, except
>> that Linux (as a term to summarize all the many distributions)
>> doesn't have an OS ("the base OS") per se.
> This is very bad.
>> You can already see this kind of development: The documentation
>> has become a package, and the package manager itself is a
>> package (separated from the OS, which only contains a bootstrap
>> loader for the real program). Finally, the installation process
>> could become a task of "pkg install", instead of "tar xf". And
>> a unification of the infrastructures could lead to additional
>> benefits (only _one_ system for both components - OS and ports).
> I am have many troubles with this way in Linux.
> Kernel and userland versions mismatch.
> glibc version incompatible with rpm.
> problem.
> And etc.

I *think* all they are planning is using the same 'pkg' system to 
maintain *separate* repos of software, still system *separate* from user 
pkg's, but I could be way off ....


	William A. Mahaffey III


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