HTTPS on freebsd.org, git, reproducible builds

Slawa Olhovchenkov slw at zxy.spb.ru
Sat Sep 19 13:32:52 UTC 2015


On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:50:23 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10:36AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > 
> > > Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw at zxy.spb.ru> writes:
> > > > freebsd-update builds is inreproducible by the freebsd-update-server bug[s].
> > > 
> > > freebsd-update will most likely be gone in 11.
> > 
> > What is planed for replacement?
> 
> As far as I could understand, pkg will deal with the components
> comprising the OS in the same manner as it does for the ports
> collection. So the kernel, the userland, the sources and so on
> will "become packages" for pkg to install or upgrade. This is
> a similar approach to common package management on Linux, except
> that Linux (as a term to summarize all the many distributions)
> doesn't have an OS ("the base OS") per se.

This is very bad.

> You can already see this kind of development: The documentation
> has become a package, and the package manager itself is a
> package (separated from the OS, which only contains a bootstrap
> loader for the real program). Finally, the installation process
> could become a task of "pkg install", instead of "tar xf". And
> a unification of the infrastructures could lead to additional
> benefits (only _one_ system for both components - OS and ports).

I am have many troubles with this way in Linux.
Kernel and userland versions mismatch.
glibc version incompatible with rpm.
pkunzip.zip problem.
And etc.


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