X client without X server
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Wed Jul 3 15:26:15 UTC 2013
From: Anton Shterenlikht <mexas at bris.ac.uk>
To: mexas at bristol.ac.uk; olivier2553 at gmail.com
Cc: on at cs.ait.ac.th; freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: X client without X server
From olivier2553 at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 13:09:25 2013
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas at bris.ac.uk> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:55:48 +0700 (ICT)
> From: Olivier Nicole <Olivier.Nicole at cs.ait.ac.th>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: X client without X server
> Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an
> X server?
> On all my systems, I throw xterm and emacs, as the primary tools I use
> for management, but the display is always remote, I never, ever, run X
> on the machine, but still it install X server, fonts and a lot of
> useless junk like xcalc.
> Is there a way to install xterm and only the libraries that are needed
> to run xterm?
> I've been doing this for years.
> What's the problem?
> Just install xterm, or whatever you need.
> All the necessary libs will be pulled in, e.g.:
> $ pkg info -xd xterm
> Obviously xterm does not depend on xorg-server.
But for some reason, xorg-server gets installed too. And tons of fonts, and ...
It could be emacs, or cvsup, these are the 3 X Window clients I install.
I don't use emacs, but you can quickly check,
prior to installing, what other ports will be
required, e.g. do
make -C /usr/ports/ search name=emacs-24
You might be familiar with this already, but
if not, the B-deps are those ports which
are required to build your port, and R-deps
are required to run your port. For emacs-24,
both the default and the devel branches, you
see that they depend on xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7_1
and lots of other libs, but not on xorg-server.
net/cvsup has a lot fewer dependencies, again
In general X server is only required by the ports
running on the graphical side - screen, mouse, kbd, etc.,
$ pkg info -xr xorg-server
So I'd say something is wrong with your installation
if xorg-server is being pulled in when you build
emacs, xterm or cvsup.
Post the output from "pkg info -aq".
Maybe this will give us a hint.
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Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc...are long since behind us. I remember in 1994 when and IT consultant came in and built a Novell server for us with a whopping 1 GB hard drive. And back then how we thought with a 1 GB hard drive we'd never run out of space. Well these days one could easily run out of space with such a small hard drive. But with today's systems having 2 or 3 TB drives and GB's of RAM, something as trivial as X-Server should not be a problem. If you don't need it, don't run it. But to worry about the space it takes up is kind of a moot point these days. And like some of the other replies mentioned, xterm may not require it, but one of xterm's dependencies may. I run Asterisk routinely on my systems and I'm always amazed at how installing one port requires no less than 38 other ports to be installed as well.
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