reason 23 why we've moved to linux
royce at tycho.org
Sat Mar 22 23:15:42 UTC 2014
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> there will always be a few bugs. otoh, with freebsd ports, there may be
> a few working paths, but they are damned hard to find. and there is
> very viable competition. many long time freebsd users are leaving, yes
> sadly, but leaving. the window is closing.
I'm not endorsing Randy's bedside manner on this one ;-), but he's
correct that the pkg transition has been a bit of a POLA violation.
It assumes that people have the skill and time to hunt for shims and
pkg will be a great step forward for busy sysadmins -- but the
transition itself has been a failure of empathy for them. Some poor
guy hops on his FreeBSD box to get a vulnerability patched -- and
steps on a landmine of indeterminate time expenditure with few
breadcrumbs. Even if he *has* been monitoring the lists.
IMO, we should have waited until we could automatically handle common
failure modes of the transition.
To this day, I still have an 8.3 jail that complains:
pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a
repository configuration file
... but I don't actually have a pkg.conf in that jail, and 'grep -r
PACKAGESITE /' yields no hits.
And why tell someone to create a file, without including a recommended
path? Or better yet ... check to see if I already had one, and prompt
me to create one if I don't?
If FreeBSD built more tools that empathize with non-developers, they'd
have more time to develop. :-)
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