Re: Why is the DVD image so large?

On Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:09:27 -0800
Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote:

> On 2025-11-01 13:01, Lars Tunkrans wrote:
> > Den 2025-11-01 kl. 17:19, skrev Sulev-Madis Silber:
> >> 
> >> On November 1, 2025 4:06:48 PM GMT+02:00, Dennis 
> >> Clarke<dclarke@blastwave.org> wrote:
> >>> Why is the DVD image so large?  Can something/anything be trimmed out?
> >> it's kind of funny
> >> 
> >> because cperciva was just asked to fill up the apparant "empty" wasted 
> >> space seen in beta3 dvd
> >> 
> >> which he did! even overachieved the task slightly, apparently?
> >> 
> >> so in order to not generate full war we would need to either cut back, 
> >> remove or abadon actual dvd size in some images
> >> 
> >> or maybe make image remotely or locally customizable
> >> 
> >> or provide separate images (tiny, medium, huge) which are just offline 
> >> repos
> >> 
> >> or finally start shipping images with various de's which users ask but 
> >> which can't be easily done as disks don't self-expand. and then you need to 
> >> archive it all too
> >> 
> >> or something else
> >> 
> >> p.s.: btw, i was not able to install ports from b3 dvd for some reason, i 
> >> didn't check why and completed the test setup from remote
> > 
> > HI
> > 
> > Yes I started this .....
> > I notices that B2 did not include the DVD: ./packages/repo directory and 
> > contents.
> > this was fixed in B3. but B3 was Void of KDE packages. B4 now have KDE 
> > packages
> > but is 4.8 GB ,
> > I propose to abandon DVD 4.7 GB format and that future DVD-ISO packages use 
> > DVD-DL
> > 8.5 GB discs.
> Why stop there? Why not abandon DVDs entirely and require 16GB and require a 
> 16+ GB thumb drive?
> IMHO The easier for someone to get FreeBSD on their target, the better. It 
> used to be on CD.
> Now it's available in DVD. But why restrict it to the largest DVD possible?
> > 
> > Regards
> 
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Another option (far more difficult, though) would be switching
to Blu-ray disks.

Why difficutlt? Because it would be strongly expected supports for
newer UDF that BD requires, if official BD image is provided,
even if the media is actually in ISO 9660. And UDF support on FreeBSD
is outdated that cannot mount BD.

Regards.

-- 
Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>