our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

[Julian H. Stacey]

Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Ruben de Groot <mail25 at bzerk.org> wrote:
>  > On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:05:10PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey typed:
>  > > PS an undefended trade mark loses its right to further defence or some such,
>  > > (I'm not a lawyer).
>  > 
>  > It's not a trade mark, is it? It's copyrighted. That's a whole other set of laws.
> 
> On the bottom of this page ...
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/art.html

Nice page :-)

> . the text states that Marshall Kirk McKusick is the
> trademark holder for the BSD Daemon image.
> However, on another page (I don't have the URL right
> now) it says that Kirk owns the copyright of the daemon.
> 
> I guess one of the web pages needs to be corrected,
> but I don't know which one.  :-)
> 
> Best regards
>    Oliver

I asked someone who registers trademarks as part of her job:
	One can apply to register a trademark in {(my (Julian) brackets) at
	least all of} Germany Britain America {etc}.  She spoke of
	an international form where one ticks the countries one
	wants {to apply to}.

I recall there's initial & recuring fees (& admin) on getting &
renewing trademarks.  So questions could be:
	Has Kirk (or A.N.Other) registered it [which, what] as a
	trademark ?  In which countries ?  When ? URLs please.
	Have they already/ when will they expire 
	Whose crontab file reminder who Kirk ? to pay renewal
	fees [to which countries] ?

I guess if Kirk didn't/ doesn't want that [future] bother, it's the sort of
thing [Free]BSD Foundation might handle ? (Assuming that [Free] bit
doesn't provoke Net Open Dragon PC etc BSD who also use the BSD daemon.

Occasionaly (eg with Disney graphics ?) one sees some mark under
the graphic. Might it be wise to have a tiny C. symbol or other
text under the graphic's feet ? (A question for a trademark specialist,
Bcc'd :-)

Editing an ASCII readable copyright string into eg a .gif image is
probably not a bad idea too.


Kirk wrote Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:19:39 -0800 (20:19 CET)

> I have gotten word from the authors that they are aware of the
> problem and are correcting it (e.g., taking out the daemon).

Mon Feb  8 20:48:01 CET 2010 (TZ=GMT+01:00) 
	http://www.iseclab.org/papers/sonda-TR.pdf
Page 4 
	BSD graphic is no longer present, replaced by word "Attacker".
	Firefox graphic is no longer present, replaced by word "Victim"

Cheers,
Julian
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