End of year Xorg status rant

Andreas Nilsson andrnils at gmail.com
Tue Jan 3 23:02:47 UTC 2017

On Jan 3, 2017 23:10, "Matthew Macy" <mmacy at nextbsd.org> wrote:

 ---- On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 13:37:30 -0800 blubee blubeeme <
gurenchan at gmail.com> wrote ----
 > Well, knowing things like this up front would be helpful or is it just
insider knowledge from people who were around at that time this stuff was
going on. These are genuine questions I'm asking.

It's not widely discussed. It reflects badly on FreeBSD as well to have a
former contributor react like that. Nonetheless, it illustrates the
frustration that contributors to this area might experience.

 >  There's no reason for any corporation to fund BSD graphics work so I'm
not even thinking about that. I doubt there's any funds to pay even a
single developer.

Barring tablet / kiosk development - which I see no case for, given the
wide adoption of Android, Google's deep pockets, and the fact that no one
is really making money off of *that*.

 >  The more you look around the more it seems like there's a lot more to
this issue. I am going to make contributions but I'd like to avoid
reinventing the wheel but I also don't want for freebsd to be dependent on
things outside its control which seems nuts.

Every year new graphics hardware comes out and applications come to depend
on new interfaces. The FreeBSD community has little say in either.


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I for one would like to Matthew Macy for advancing the graphics stack as
far as it has come.
I find it easier to keep up with drm-next 4.7 than xorg-next.

I do have some issues on a x1-yoga, where chromium sometimes distorts X,
without any real logs.

Anyhow, FreeBSD in this state is more productive than win10-dev builds
which certainly have come a long way.

OS X have some other benefits. Suspend-resume that is. Osx failed me 3
times in 3 years of 20-times a day usage, vs fbsd which on my x1 yoga has
never worked. oh, it suspends fine, but video is borked on resume. But that
is fine, sometime that will be worked out.

FreeBSD is where I feel at home. X might be somewhat behind, but it is
better now than what it has been.

With Mr. Macy's patches we are getting there. Let's hope his foundational
patches gets included so we can move on with integrating linux-upstream
releases as ports in a more timely fashion.

I wish Mr. Macy and all of you a good 2017.

Best regards

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