The status of docker

Pete Wright pete at
Fri Feb 1 21:13:46 UTC 2019

On 2/1/19 1:12 PM, Pete Wright wrote:
> On 2/1/19 1:07 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>> On 01/02/2019 19:49, Pete Wright wrote:
>>> On 2/1/19 11:39 AM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote:
>>>>> What problem are you trying to solve with docker?
>>>> There is a misunderstanding. I am not trying to solve any problem. 
>>>> The team I am working with is using docker during development (by 
>>>> using a preconfigured container they avoid having to setup a 
>>>> complex backend system on development/CI machines). I was hoping to 
>>>> use FreeBSD during the development but it proved difficult. I now 
>>>> have a choice of either switching to Linux natively (as bhyve 
>>>> didn't help) or to use MacBook Pro - both supporting docker out of 
>>>> the box.
>>> might be worth taking a look at hashicorp Vagrant.  i've used it 
>>> with success in developer workflows  in the past where most devs 
>>> were on macOS and we were targeting FreeBSD.
>>> IMHO docker on macOS is kinda hacky since you end up running Linux 
>>> inside virtualbox, then launch docker on those VM's (at least I 
>>> believe that used to be the case if things have changed).  i also 
>>> feel like docker is a double edged sword (aside from the fact that 
>>> it locks you into linux) in that most people don't do a good job 
>>> tracking dependencies or actually apply updates/patches to base 
>>> docker images.
>> Looks like that that's no longer true and hasn't been true for the 
>> past 2 years:
>> But it also looks like something similar could have been achieved by 
>> replacing xhyve/Hyper-V with bhyve. If docker is open source then 
>> that shouldn't be a problem?
> hrm, i guess the macOS install instructions are out of date:
> "VirtualBox prior to version 4.3.30 must NOT be installed (it is 
> incompatible with Docker Desktop for Mac). If you have a newer version 
> of VirtualBox installed, it’s fine."

sorry ignore my previous email, i am totally mistaken and misread the 
docs :(


Pete Wright
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