asomers at freebsd.org
Mon Apr 29 17:06:35 UTC 2019
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:23 AM Michelle Sullivan <michelle at sorbs.net> wrote:
> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here
> Perhaps one should reconsider either:
> 1. Looking at tools that may be able to recover corrupt ZFS metadata, or
> 2. Defaulting to non ZFS filesystems on install.
> Michelle Sullivan
Wow, losing multiple TB sucks for anybody. I'm sorry for your loss.
But I want to respond to a few points from the blog post.
1) When ZFS says that "the data is always correct and there's no need
for fsck", they mean metadata as well as data. The spacemap is
protected in exactly the same way as all other data and metadata. (to
be pedantically correct, the labels and uberblocks are protected in a
different way, but still protected). The only way to get metadata
corruption is due a disk failure (3-disk failure when using RAIDZ2),
or due to a software bug. Sadly, those do happen, and they're
devilishly tricky to track down. The difference between ZFS and older
filesystems is that older filesystems experience corruption during
power loss _by_design_, not merely due to software bugs. A perfectly
functioning UFS implementation will experience corruption during power
loss, and that's why it needs to be fscked. It's not just
theoretical, either. I use UFS on my development VMs, and they
frequently experience corruption after a panic (which happens all the
time because I'm working on kernel code).
2) Backups are essential with any filesystem, not just ZFS. After
all, no amount of RAID will protect you from an accidental "rm -rf /".
3) ZFS hotspares can be swapped in automatically, though they don't be
default. It sounds like you already figured out how to assign a spare
to the pool. To use it automatically, you must set the "autoreplace"
pool property and enable zfsd. The latter can be done with "sysrc
4) It sounds like you're having a lot of power trouble. Have you
tried sysutils/apcupsd from ports? It's fairly handy. It can talk to
a wide range of UPSes, and can be configured to do stuff like send you
an email on power loss, and power down the server if the battery gets
Better luck next time,
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