SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO

George Mitchell george at
Sun Nov 4 14:43:58 UTC 2012

On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> (Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable)
> I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the
> author (not sure if maintainer) of the code.
> This default has already begun to bite users/SAs in the ass:
> SU+J (the journalling part specifically) needs to be disabled by default
> in the installer.  This default was a very bad choice and should not
> have been done.  It either indicates someone was out of touch with the
> rest of the issues surrounding the feature, or that someone
> intentionally decided "it's the best way to get people using it for
> testing" (I have seen this justification presented in the past, and it
> is the wrong approach).
> However, since some people DO want it (and those folks don't use dump),
> the installer should be modified to make SU+J support toggleable via a a
> checkbox.  The default, obviously, should be unchecked.
> If the user checks the checkbox, an ominous warning message should be
> displayed informing the user of the repercussions.  The only option at
> that point should be "OK", after which the checkbox is checked.
> Do not tell me "send patches".  This issue/problem has gone on long
> enough, and the community bitched hard/long enough, that the person who
> committed this default should be responsible for fixing it.
> We should operate under the assumption that this bug/problem will never
> be fixed.  It probably will be, but again, we must operate with the
> assumption that Kirk et al will require years to fix it.  (It has
> already been something like 9 months.  Or is it a year?)
> [...]

I will give this comment a BIG, BIG, +1!                   --  George

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