HEADS UP: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon

Andriy Gapon avg at icyb.net.ua
Tue Sep 21 12:53:59 UTC 2010

on 21/09/2010 15:36 Vadim Goncharov said the following:
> Hi Andriy Gapon! 
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:39:53 +0300; Andriy Gapon wrote about 'Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon':
>>> The Project is ultimately about the users, right? There are early signs that
>>> some old FreeBSD users get tired from those changes, those removals, lesser
>>> POLA adherence, marketing-not-technical-stuff for time-not-feature-based
>>> releases, not so stable -STABLE as it used to be, and so on, migrating to
>>> other systems. And older users are more valuable to project than newer ones.
>>> May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
>>> project is mostly ended, while those signs are still early and not a strong
>>> tendency?.. Given this thread, I've mentioned earlier about 12 messages in
>>> announce@ from 2002 with such public calls for volunteers - there are several
>>> years already without these.
>> Hmm, it's really simple.
>> If you want to shape the future of the project, then participate in the places
>> where the future is shaped.  If you want to know what's coming up in the future,
>> then watch the places where the future is shaped.  If you don't do either, you get
>> what you get.  Complaining post factum just doesn't work.  (Numerous other
>> examples and projects also demonstrate that).
>> "Current", "stable" are not some alien versions of FreeBSD for some other strange
>> people to use.
>> Those are your future releases.
>> Not looking into the future has its benefits - you are not doing anything; but it
>> has costs too - you don't know your future.
>> Looking into the future and shaping it has obvious costs, but the benefits are
>> clear too.
>> Business users and old FreeBSD users should know this best of all.
>> It's strange that you try speak on their behalf but do not seem to realize these
>> simple things.
> The essence of your words and your position in other letters is:
> "We are an open source project exactly the same kind like many others:
>  we have no [moral] responsibility to our users, we are selfish and want only
>  your code; give us your code and you will have the right to freedom of speech,
>  otherwise you're an untermensch".

Please don't put your words into my mouth.
I've said what I've said.
Your interpretations do not interest me.
Have a good life.

Andriy Gapon

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