overheating Thinkpad X60s with 7.0-RC1
Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko
gaijin.k at gmail.com
Sun Jan 6 21:08:04 PST 2008
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 20:22 -0500, Nathan Lay wrote:
> Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 23:58 +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
> >> On 1/6/08, Henrik Brix Andersen <brix at freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
> >>>> X and T series of the thinkpads are rather different, even the cores are
> >>>> completely different (I have a dualcore low-voltage version, I assume
> >>>> yours is running on a dual Pentium m, or?).
> >>> FWIW, I haven't seen any temperature related issues on my ThinkPad
> >>> X60s, which has been tracking -CURRENT for the last year or so.
> >>> It too has had the IPW3945 replaced by an Atheros wireless card, but
> >>> it is still using the original HDD.
> >> Can the HDD change already cause such a thing? Besides that: I have not
> >> configured anything myself concerning ACPI. Anyone any idea what/where/how
> >> to check? I DO think that the fan is working. I can hear it (and it does not
> >> sound ill) and it also shows in
> >> $ sysctl dev.acpi_ibm
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4071
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
> >> dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 61 -1 58 43 -1 40 -1
> >> Now not being touched at all for an hour and just idling around. Besides it
> >> did work under 6.2 without problems, would be a crazy coincident if right
> >> with the update the fan broke.
> >> Any idea anyone? :S
> > First -- the disclaimer -- mine is X60 (not X60s), but with 1.83GHz
> > 32-bit CPU, so it should be somewhat similar to yours. At the moment it
> > has USB drivers loaded, which tends to bump CPU utilization and
> > temperature. It has UltraBase attached and is sitting on top of the
> > aluminum passive cooler pad.
> > It was bought originally with the Atheros card and 100GB drive and 1GB
> > of memory was added later to the total of 2GB.
> > System is -CURRENT as of January 5th 18:00 EST. This laptop was tracking
> > -CURRENT pretty close since I have acquired it 15 month ago. It does
> > buildwords with -j5 at least weekly.
> > At the moment, I am writing this E-mail and playing some music, using
> > Amarok. It is on the wired network ATM, but I do not recall any thermal
> > problems while using wireless connection.
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 133
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 7
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 1
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 2874
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
> > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 52 -1 61 39 -1 37 -1
> > RabbitsDen# sysctl -a | grep temperature
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 62.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 62.0C
> > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 63 // You need coretemp.ko loaded
> > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 63 // to get these values.
> > RabbitsDen#
> > I does look shade cooler then yours, and fan is running at the lower
> > speed.
> > I will try to list things that I do/have done, and you can compare them
> > to your setup:
> > -- BIOS is updated to the latest level (I do keep XP partition for this
> > specific purpose).
> > -- I run powerd:
> > powerd_enable="YES"
> > powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -i 75 -r 65"
> > -- I set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver="3" in /boot/loader.conf
> > -- I run GNOME (please, no religious wars here)
> > -- I set low CPU state to C2 in rc.conf
> > performance_cx_lowest="C2" # Online CPU idle state
> > economy_cx_lowest="C2" # Offline CPU idle state
> > I could not think of anything else related to the temperature, ATM.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Johannes
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> 62C looks awfully high for playing music and writing emails. I have a
Thank you very much for pointing this out -- turns out that I was
missing cpufreq module -- restoring that to its proper place got me down
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 53 54 -1 52 37 -1 34 -1
where it belongs. I don't think it will ever be as well cooled as T43
due to its tight packaging though...
> Thinkpad T43 (and T40) and it usually stays between 40-50C while doing
> those types of things. When its building world, I get around 70C and
> usually no higher.
> I do notice, however, that FreeBSD seemed to never use the fan to its
> potential on any of the Thinkpads I've used (T40 for 3 years, T43 for 3
> years). Comparably, Windows XP would rev the fan far higher than even
> setting 'dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level=7' when under load. The fan can
> certainly work faster (even when booting FreeBSD, its audibly
> faster)...but 7 is the highest level acpi_ibm allows one to set.
> Here's my dev.acpi_ibm on a T43
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4677
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 44 42 33 47 33 -1 24 -1
> Using dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan=1 yields similar results, but the fan runs quieter.
Can you, please, post sysctl.dev.cpu.0 results?
> Best Regards,
> Nathan Lay
Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko
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