OS to replace FreeBSD

Jerry jerry at seibercom.net
Fri Mar 19 18:04:59 UTC 2021

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:36:10 -0600, Bob Melson stated:
>On 3/19/21 11:02 AM, Jerry wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:07:07 -0400, Ernie Luzar stated:  
>>> Matthias Gamsjager wrote:  
>>>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:16, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
>>>>> With the soon-to-be release of version 13 of FreeBSD and the EOL
>>>>> of FreeBSD 11.x, I will need to invest in a new OS. Due to
>>>>> FreeBSD’s unfortunate inability to squash bug
>>>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666, l am
>>>>> left with no choice but to seek out a new OS. I need a bare-bones
>>>>> system that can run a mail server, Postfix with Dovecot, and a
>>>>> few other utilities.
>>>   This sounds like only 2 things. 1. Something in your hardware
>>> tower is
>>> falling. 2. The way you updated from one release to another
>>> something went wrong.
>>> I would start with a clean build of release 12.2 using a disk drive
>>> on a usb stick. See if problem is still there. If so you have
>>> hardware problem and no amount of PR is going to fix that.  
>> There was nothing failing; it was a brand new PC. I have done the
>> clean install with both 12.0 and 12.2, with the same results. If you
>> actually read through the bug report, you would see that I am not
>> the only one with this problem.
>> Apparently, someone reported that you could rebuild the kernel and
>> remove USB3 or something like that, but I have neither the time nor
>> inclination to do that, assuming I could do it.
>> Versions 10 & 11 work fine. This is something that FreeBSD did that
>> screwed up the works. Dell is aware of the problem but will do
>> nothing to attempt to create a work around for it. They claim it is
>> working as specified and every other OS, with the exception of
>> FreeBSD works correctly on that system.
>> I am not going to spend more money to get a system that is happy with
>> FreeBSD. I buy what I want and then get an OS that is capable of
>> operating on it, not the other way around. In any case, I am thinking
>> of either Fedora, Debian or Arch Linux. I was just looking for
>> recommendations from anyone who has used those systems.
>What I'd suggest is that you take a deep breath then ask yourself why 
>you selected FreeBSD in the first place.  If the considerations that 
>were important then are still important then, maybe, switching OSes is 
>not the right decision.  Sure, there are a lot of alternatives out 
>there, but if the factors that held at the time of your initial choice 
>are still valid ...
>I'd also suggest that, if BSD in general is what you're most
>comfortable with, you consider either NetBSD or OpenBSD as a possible
>replacement. Both share the same roots as FreeBSD but have followed
>somewhat different paths to reach their current releases.  Each has
>its positive points, each has negatives; how those negatives might
>affect you is up to you to determine.
>Me, I'm presently running generic 12.2 on a Lenovo Ryzen box with no 
>problems and have run FreeBSD on various hardware since v2.1.  I *was*
>- once upon a time - a professional user, now I'm just a happily
>retired geek.
>Bob Melson
>El Paso, TX

I had considered using a different flavor of BSD. I still might.
However, I also happen to have a spare HD that I could plug into the
system, install Windows 10 Pro and Hyper V and then see if FreeBSD 12.x
or newer works correctly. That would only take a short amount of time.
I just need to do it at night so I can take the system offline.

It probably won't work, but if FreeBSD is isolated from the hardware,
it might be all that is needed in the short run.

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