mailman 3 on FreeBSD- or mailman replacement?

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at
Wed May 13 15:59:53 UTC 2020

On 5/13/20 10:48 AM, matthew at wrote:
> On 13/05/2020 15:48, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> I'm sure I'm not the only one who runs mailman on FreeBSD servers. Now 
>> that python 2.7 is about to go, mailman 2 will follow. There is 
>> mailman 3 that is based on python 3. There is, however, no mailman 3 
>> port. I wonder if someone already asked mailman port maintainer about 
>> mailman 3. I do not like to bother busy person(s) if someone already did.
> There's a long thread about this already on the freebsd-ports@ list, 
> starting with this message:
> and there's this PR:
> The problem is that mailman3 is apparently badly documented; has been 
> rewritten in a way significantly incompatible with existing mailman2 
> setups and despite being 5 years old, is still missing some important 
> functionality that mailman2 has.

Thank you, Matthew! You really summarized for lazy person - me - the 
situation. Whereas mailman2 was brilliantly written by brilliant 
programmers - even with use of "sneaky snake" python, mailman3 is not 
such. Maybe, the programmers team has changed. Or maybe - like in 
Mozilla Foundation - the jumpy nonsense "production director" came 
there... All in all, this just confirms the vitality of second question:

What is best replacement for mailman? What to migrate mail lists to?


>      Cheers,
>      Matthew
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Valeri Galtsev
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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