freebsd vs. netbsd

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at
Thu Jun 11 15:11:55 UTC 2020

On 6/11/20 7:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:15:04 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:03 AM Yuri Pankov <yuripv at> wrote:
>>> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:49:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>>>>> As to the comment of how common top posting is or not almost
>>>>> every web based MUA defaults to it
>>>> Could you mention a few FLOSS BSD or Linux MUAs that by default
>>>> sets the cursor above the quoted text?
>>> FWIW, Thunderbird does that by default in new accounts, you have to
>>> configure it to do otherwise.
>> So does every other GUI/web MUA.   I don't know why it is so hard for
>> the FreeBSD community to get that conventions have changed (for better
>> or worse I don't know but they have).  I have even had people complain
>> about not top-posting because "I can't find your reply" and thus
>> almost the entire world (except for a few technical mailing lists)
>> either accepts or encourages top-posting.
> I seriously doubt that there are a lot GUI or TUI MUAs available for
> BSD or Linux that do that by default. Just mentioning one, Thunderbird
> and then claiming every other does, too, is weak. I'm not aware of one.
> Evolution doesn't, Sylpheed doesn't, Claws-Mail doesn't. IIRC KMail and
> Wanderlust didn't when I used them. Probably no other does, I just
> mentioned those I'm still using or I used a while back.

I agree, and would add that my mail client does put my reply above the 
message I respond by default. Nonetheless, I learned to avoid top 
posting. It is easy: if you put some effort into reading and 
comprehending message, you can put a bit of effort into following 
etiquette of the mailing list you sending your message to.

The logic of me having my reply above message by default is: I usually 
communicate person-to-person with people I do something for. And my 
latest reply is the most important thing I want them to read. 
Occasionally, people send multi issue/question mail, which makes it 
harder to track what was done what wasn't. And in this case I have to 
send "in line" responses to them. Still, mail clients I use are fully 
configurable in what they do by default, and I do go through whole their 
configuration when I add account. Too many "garbage" settings are made 
"on" by default these days in many mail clients and web browsers. Even 
coming from honorable Mozilla foundation.


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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