freebsd vs. netbsd

Aryeh Friedman aryeh.friedman at
Thu Jun 11 13:08:48 UTC 2020

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:31 AM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions <
freebsd-questions at> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:15:04 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:03 AM Yuri Pankov <yuripv at> wrote:
> >
> >> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:49:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> >> >> As to the comment of how common top posting is or not almost
> >> >> every web based MUA defaults to it
> >> >
> >> > Could you mention a few FLOSS BSD or Linux MUAs that by default
> >> > sets the cursor above the quoted text?
> >>
> >> FWIW, Thunderbird does that by default in new accounts, you have to
> >> configure it to do otherwise.
> >
> >So does every other GUI/web MUA.   I don't know why it is so hard for
> >the FreeBSD community to get that conventions have changed (for better
> >or worse I don't know but they have).  I have even had people complain
> >about not top-posting because "I can't find your reply" and thus
> >almost the entire world (except for a few technical mailing lists)
> >either accepts or encourages top-posting.
> I seriously doubt that there are a lot GUI or TUI MUAs available for
> BSD or Linux that do that by default. Just mentioning one, Thunderbird
> and then claiming every other does, too, is weak. I'm not aware of one.

SquirrelMail for one (I didn't look very deep into what *EVERY* web client
does but the first one I found does it and so do all the hosted ones like
gmail/hotmail/etc. so I would say a 100% hit rate is pretty clear.... so I
challenge you to find a web one that doesn't do it by default [being able
to adjust the settings is not the same as "by default"]).

Evolution doesn't, Sylpheed doesn't, Claws-Mail doesn't. IIRC KMail and
> Wanderlust didn't when I used them. Probably no other does, I just
> mentioned those I'm still using or I used a while back.

If someone is top posting out of not knowing list convention do you really
expect them to have also fully configured anything more then a browser on
FreeBSD (and that's if they are lucky)?
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer,

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