Minimal skills

Donald Wilde dwilde1 at
Fri Jun 5 01:27:13 UTC 2020

On 6/4/20, Polytropon <freebsd at> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:54:15 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote:
>> On 6/4/20, Polytropon <freebsd at> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:08:01 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote:
>> >> If it's an Android phone, whatever MUA you have on it should also have
>> >> such setting switches.
>> >
>> > Emailing on a smartphone is a terrible experience. Real people
>> > use a real computer for real stuff. :-)
>> I'm busily re-designing smartphones in my 'spare' cycles because they
>> barely fit my needs for a _phone_!
> Smartphones are not _designed_ to be used for phone calls. :-)

ROFL VVH! Imagine that! What are they, status symbols of the poor and clueless?
>> >> What I'd suggest that you do is to go to and create
>> >> brandon.helsey at and subscribe that address to your
>> >> open-source mailing list collection. The GMail client can be accessed
>> >> from any (lynx, anyone? Haven't tested THAT one :) ) web browser, so
>> >> you can use this on your FreeBSD machine or even a public library
>> >> computer.
>> >
>> > Which, from a security point of view, is one of the worst things
>> Point taken. As you can see, 'easy' has overtaken 'secure' for me for
>> some time. As yet, my GMail hasn't been hacked and it does a pretty
>> good job of stomping spam, especially from actual live politicians.
>> ;-)

My Yahoo account has been hacked. I suppose it'll eventually happen to
GMail as well. Well, I'll have plenty of servers to replace it with
soon enough.
>> >> The downside to GMail is that it is more difficult to categorize
>> >> e-mails, but IIRC it can be done.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, it's just added complexity to something as simple
>> > as email. Adding Google's Gmail to the mix does not lead to any
>> > benefits, I'd say. Probably "" already offers some
>> > web mailer that could be used. But as there is IMAP confirmed,
>> > why not use that with a normal mailing program on a real computer?
>> > Anything is better than trying to do this on a smartphone, without
>> > real success... :-)
>> >
>> Actually, I do like to have folders of e-mails that I stash, but
>> that's a personal preference.
> Hey, I do the same with Sylpheed - the "sidebar" on the left
> contains a sorting hierarchy. Such hierarchies can be maintained
> automatically by filters acting to keywords, or manually by
> mouse drag & drop. Thunderbird also has this feature, making
> it easy to manage IMAP accounts using your local interface and
> not having to worry about Internet connection - actions will be
> taken at synchronization time that you can decide on yourself
> ("offline mode").

>> It sounds like the MBox format can do
>> that, so I'll make a transition myself in some near future.
> Both mbox and MailDir can be used for hierarchical storage.
> The main difference is that in mbox, you have _one_ file per
> mailbox, which can lead to big files; in MailDir, you have
> one file per message, which can lead to many files. Depending
> on filesystem parameters, one or the other can slow down
> message retrieval when you have millions of messages.

Thanks for the edu experience, Polytropon! <(_ _)> :D

Nothing can slow things down as much as Windows 10 does, out of the
box. I have an i7 4-core tower with 16GB of DDR4 and it's a slug that
I am always worried will do something Very Stupid(TM by MS) to me,
like reformatting my "damaged" USB key without asking.

> As I mentioned, the storage mechamism doesn't actually matter
> as in the end, it all looks the same to the user:
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
> | [] []   [] [] [] []   [] [] [] [] [] []             |
> +----------+------------------------------------------+

Dang, P! PUNCH CARDS??? <wink>

Don Wilde
* What is the Internet of Things but a system *
* of systems including humans?                     *

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