Unteachable Spammers on FreeBSD lists

Aryeh Friedman aryeh.friedman at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 09:57:50 UTC 2020

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:40 AM Roderick <hruodr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Following your own logic of reading carefully the handbook and
> list descritions: questions is for questions and answers, not
> for small talk.

One person's small talk is another person's legitimate question/answer and
vice versa.   Thus the measure you claim the handbook gives is completely
subjective and again to quote the handbook (and mailing list FAQ):

On the purpose of mailing lists (FAQ): "The FreeBSD mailing lists serve as
the primary communication channels for the FreeBSD community, covering many
different topic areas and communities of interest."

On which list to use (Handbook): " Sending questions to the most
appropriate mailing list will invariably assure a faster and more accurate

As stated in the message you are responding to -questions@ due to its catch
all nature is the most appropriate list.   If you want to create a new one
that is more appropriate talk to the FreeBSD team about doing so (they
always welcome help!)

If you have issues with how the Handbook and mailing list FAQ are worded
and/or the actual meta content of the documents take it up with the FreeBSD

> Perhaps the handbook and list mantainers could make corrections
> in the wording, but it will not help against spamers: intrusion
> is in soul of spamers.

Since FreeBSD is an all volunteer effort you might want to volunteer to
"correct" this since the current team is more than satisfied with the
current definition else they would not of written what they did in the
Handbook and FAQ.

> If all people here answer like that, I will have to unsubscribe,
> as perhaps other people do (or never subscribed).

You are of course free to do whatever you want but  it will not change the
nature of reality for anyone else.  But the fact you top posted your reply
shows you likely have never even read the mailing list FAQ so no wonder you
are making assumptions about the purpose of different mailing lists that
are not correct.

> Rod.
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > Not according to the handbook's description of each list:
> >
> > -questions@: User questions and technical support
> > -chat@: Non-technical items related to the FreeBSD community
> >
> > The questions being asked were by a user of FreeBSD and were technical in
> > nature (the technical merits of FreeBSD vs. Linux).   Here are the other
> > possible lists and by their descriptions none of them made sense for the
> > subject matter of the OP's post:
> >
> > -advocacy@: FreeBSD Evangelism (the OP was not asking how to market
> FreeBSD
> > just defend it on technical grounds to upper management of their org)
> > -women@: Victor is not a very female name (enough said)
> >
> > There is no -smalltalk@ list and even if there was it would be a
> misleading
> > name since there is a programming language by that name.
> >
> > So the bottom line is @questions- is the best (and only) place for such
> > threads.   If you want a new group, suggest one to the owners of the
> freebsd
> > mailing lists and see if you can make one.
> >
> >       or the web forum
> >
> >       https://forums.freebsd.org
> >
> >
> > The handbook says mailing lists are the prefered way to communicate about
> > FreeBSD so suggesting the forum is pointless if you want to get the
> widest
> > possible input.  To quote "The mailing lists are the most direct way of
> > addressing questions or opening a technical discussion to a concentrated
> > FreeBSD audience."
> >
> > --
> > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
> >
> >
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