OT: Re: Firefox or what?

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu
Thu Aug 15 17:48:35 UTC 2019

On 2019-08-15 12:32, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:23:11 +0200
> hw <hw at gc-24.de> wrote:
>> There is no way to describe it quickly.  Multiple servers, PXE boot
>> setups, VLANs and switches from different manufacturers are involved.
> 	When you have a problem in a complex setup that you wish to solve
> the first step (after trying whatever may be obvious and quick to try)
> should be to reproduce it in the simplest possible setup that you can.
> Often attempting to do this will reveal the true cause of the problem.

This list is too generous. Many people are replying with attempts to 
help, even though IMHO the OP is not willing to do a "homework" Steve 
stated above, neither is willing to put some effort into providing 
complete description of everything which will be necessary if someone 
decides to reproduce the OP's problem.

Long ago when I was starting to seek help on mail lists, I read 
someone's writeup on mail list etiquette. One of the first points was: 
before posting and asking for help you need to do your own 
troubleshooting and when formulating the problem, reduce your case to 
the simplest one that gives the example of the problem you can not solve 
yourself. In general, the advise was to keep in mind that you are 
soliciting help from busy highly skilled people, and if it is not clear 
that you did put sufficient effort into solving your problem, you may 
not receive any response.

This whole thread I perceive as example of how generous the Experts on 
this list are.

I hope, this helps the OP to find appropriate general approach to 
solving his/her problem.


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247

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