Karl Young karly at kipshouse.org
Wed Aug 15 21:08:16 UTC 2018

Dave Hayes(dave at jetcafe.org)@2018.08.15 14:00:20 -0700:

> I have been trying to convince people that convincing people of
> anything is futile...but somehow my efforts in this regard are not
> working at all. ;)

I'm convinced.


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