Alternative to x11/gnome3 ?

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at
Wed Aug 8 17:40:17 UTC 2018

On 08/08/18 12:15, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 23:37:22 +0700
>> Victor Sudakov <vas at> wrote:
>>> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>>>>> No, this is not the way it works on Linux. Linux users don't run
>>>>> startx from a text session, nor do they switch between GUI sessions
>>>>> with Ctrl-Alt-Fn.  They click "Switch user" and the graphical login
>>>>> screen appears where you can get authenticated.
>>>> 	You can use startx and Ctrl-Alt-Fn in Linux to do this, at least
>>>> you could last time I used Linux and X.
>>> You can but nobody does because it's inconvenient and contraintuitive
>>> for the majority of users.
>> 	I suspect I'm in a minority on FreeBSD too, but I find it handier.
> My wife always gets confused whether her X session is already running
> (and she should look for it by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F9, Ctrl-Alt-F10
> until she eventually finds it) or she has to start a new one.
> Several times she has run startx from a text session, then got
> confused where her vt was and tried to run another startx... As I said,
> contraintuitive.

Agree. The user needs to have some UNIX proficiency to go through 
routine starting X from console. Long ago people just starting to use 
UNIX (who, say, know only about 5 shell command), still were OK starting 
X from console, and then just keeping use X. These days we usually give 
them machine with display manager running ("graphic login"). So, Steve 
may be right: we are just a minority (sysadmins mostly) who more likely 
will use startx than running display manager process.



Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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