Is pkg quarterly really needed?

Freddie Cash fjwcash at
Tue Apr 18 16:13:34 UTC 2017

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, krad <kraduk at> wrote:

> quarterly does seem very cautious, maybe a monthly might be a good
> alternative. I can understand people being hesitant about latest though. I
> guess these are not the people who ask though. Maybe the real answer though
> is to have a specific repo for that port for the bleeding edge people  much
> like launchpad on ubuntu. It might get complicated though for big
> dependency trees though.

​latest/ is good for desktop users who only care about running the very
latest versions of everything.

quarterly/ is good for server users who want to make sure that installing a
new piece of software won't require an upgrade of all the currently
installed software (repo hasn't changed since the last install).  And for
desktop users who prefer to use their computers for doing work instead of
spending all their time chasing after the "latest" flashy bling bling.  :)

quarterly/ also gets security fixes back-ported into it (on a
per-maintainer basis so it's not 100% coverage yet), so you can stay secure
without chasing new software versions.

IOW, don't change the infrastructure, it's working nicely.  Just educate
the users.  :D

> On 18 April 2017 at 14:54, qjail1 <qjail1 at> wrote:
> > I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes
> > many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg
> > system.
> >
> > My response is I tell them to change a line in their
> /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
> > file
> > from url: "pkg+${ABI}/quarterly",
> > to   url: "pkg+${ABI}/latest",
> >
> > The old pkg system never had this quarterly update cycle and I see no
> > reason to have it now when its so easy to over ride the default.
> >
> > Why not just change the default to "latest" and save on all the overhead
> > of the quarterly cycle?
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