please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken

Littlefield, Tyler tyler at
Tue Mar 29 05:37:30 UTC 2016

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On 3/28/2016 9:53 PM, anonymous wrote:
> "The connection was interrupted"
> "The connection to was interrupted while the
> page was loading."
> i'd like to discuss release engineering aspects BUT i wont ask you
> all for practical reasons i should not.  however i do have an
> imortant request.
Before you start delving into Releng it might be important to dive
into SSL--just a thought.

> that new users be able to see forums if not participate in free
> speech in them.
> why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD
> community forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing
> httpS)

If you're using Firefox 2.0 and 5.0, that's probably your issue. HTTPS
has evolved a lot since then, whenever then might be. I'm currently
running Firefox 45.0 and can access the forums fine, so it seems
you're 25 versions behind. Perhaps Firefox releng can help you? Or
perhaps you can just update.

> echo "GET" | ./nc 
> 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>301 Moved Permanently</title> 
> </head><body> <h1>Moved Permanently</h1> <p>The document has moved
> <a href="">here</a>.</p> 
> </body></html>
> i can't even trace down why because the web server is showing "."
> as the altered location.

No, the web server is not showing "." as the altered location, it's
showing the same URL with https (forcing you to use SSL and HTTPS,
which incidentally generally is useful in protecting free speech as
well as your login details).

> there is no help on freeBSD about forum access difficulty i can
> find

This is not a FreeBSD issue, it's a you issue. Update your browser.

> i have a box was just about to install freeBSD and wanted forum
> input on which version

Unless you have very good reason, I recommend 10.2-release.

> i shouldn't have to be running (newest) BSD to participate in
> talking to other BSD users

There's the forums with an updated browser, this mailing list (which
has probably already gotten some responses and I've not made it that
far) and IRC. I'm sure there are other ways, I hear that you can run
smokesignald but I've never tried.

> OR there should be an "try these BSD forums" if BSD people have
> opted to work only with pay site GIT and do not wish to extend
> forums to new users.

Getting redirected to an SSL site is not an adoption of a "pay" site.

> i tried Major Domo, but no one answers questions concerning forums
> by email - or it gets lost in shuffle there are so many emails
> arriving.  i dont watn to pester the patch people they want new
> patches and no talk, not webadmin hastles.
> anway: asked before a couple times.  i KNOW other inet users are
> having the same issues

Tell them not to run old versions of their browsers as well. Apart
from not connecting to sites which properly configure SSL, it's not
all that secure. There's a reason why browsers update.

> ---------------------
> Admin ID: EL3045-GANDI Admin Name: The FreeBSD Foundation Admin
> Organization: FreeBSD Foundation Admin Street: P.O. Box 20247 Admin
> City: Boulder Admin State/Province: CO Admin Postal Code: 80308 
> Admin Country: US
> Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Stephan Ramoin Registrant
> Organization: Gandi SAS Registrant Street: 63-65 Boulevard Massena 
> Registrant City: Paris Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal
> Code: 75013
> i like french food but NOT french top down control - it gives me a 
> stomach ache

I'm not really sure what this means.
> BSD is a california product why is "it in colorado" with controller
> "in france".  that's rhetorical but i dont like your answer nor do
> i beleive it.  to hell if anyone but usa is "leading AT&T breed
> BSD, usc" - go takeover linux again start another linux war.

This makes about as much sense as the rest of your message. The
registration of a domain does not mean anything. Also, BSD has its'
roots in Berkeley, but it doesn't make it a "california" product. As
far as I am aware, the foundation is ran out of Colorado where it
probably holds it's status for the organization. AT&T BSD is long gone
and isn't an issue anymore. The country of origin or where the
registrar is located is not really relevant to anything. I recommend
you indulge your bigotry somewhere else.

> -----------------------
> (i sound harsh to some, but i'm a pushover mostly)

Harsh is hardly the word I would've used to describe the last message.

> but then if i was, i should be harsh when those who are
> un-initiated are being pushed aside is that right ?

> thank you have a good day 
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