math "formulae" using libreoffice

Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka at
Fri Nov 29 07:33:23 UTC 2013

Am 2013-11-29 08:27, schrieb Da Rock:
> On 11/29/13 17:03, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
>> Am 2013-11-29 05:43, schrieb Polytropon:
>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:27:01 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/13 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
>>>> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>>>> >>     I'l ck it out, thankee.  I have been wondering about the diff
>>>> >>     between openX and libreX {X == "office"} but guessed that
>>>> >>     "open" was what the BSD's chose ...
>>>> > No, they are two different products, maintained independently.
>>>> > If I remember correctly, it started with StarOffice as the first
>>>> > major office suite becoming a free product (I've been using
>>>> > version 3.x and 4.0 of this), it was then "incorporated" by
>>>> > Sun which later became OpenOffice. When Oracle bought and
>>>> > (mostly) destroyed Sun, OpenOffice was one of the victims;
>>>> > they added proprietary code and finally abandoned it. That
>>>> > was the time when LibreOffice was forked. Today, LibreOffice
>>>> > is _the_ office suite per se.
>>>> Not to start a war, but it went StarOffice as a free product (up to
>>>> about 5 or 6, I think), then Sun made it a paid product and forked
>>>> OpenOffice as an open source alternative (good ole Sun); then Oracle 
>>>> got
>>>> involved and Libreoffice was forked with some of the original devs
>>>> walking with it and overhauling it in the process, and finally with
>>>> OpenOffice finally abandoned to the wolves by Oracle at a later date 
>>>> and
>>>> rescued by the Apache incubator project not so many years ago now.
>>> That won't start a war, at least not from my side. :-)
>>> I wasn't aware that Sun didn't continue the "tradition of free"
>>> from the start. It's always nice to learn something about history.
>>> So todays we're left with the decision "Apache OpenOffice vs.
>>> TDF LibreOffice" (just mentioning the "big players", there's
>>> still AbiWord, Gnumeric et al. as separate components)...
>> I'm afraid this is still not quite correct. To the best of my 
>> knowledge, StarDivision (from Hamburg, Germany) sold StarOffice as a 
>> commercial software until they were purchased by Sun. However, at this 
>> point the software had been free for personal use for about a year or 
>> so. It was not open source though. After purchasing StarOffice, Sun 
>> made it free for commercial use as well and eventually released the 
>> sources as well. This recollection matches what I read here: 
> The plot thickens... :)

Yes, and I'm hanging on the edge of my seat waiting for Scott McNealy to 
chime in :-)


Markus Hoenicka
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