this is probably a little touchy to ask...

Chip Camden sterling at
Fri Sep 10 15:16:56 UTC 2010

Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Friday, 10 September 2010:
> >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer <msommer at> writes:
> Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5.
> Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across
> Mark> browsers, i.e.  adapted universally by all browsers uniformly.
> Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser.
> Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe.  (Flash too.)
> There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern
> cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead.
> Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well.  And yes, until
> then, we're stuck with Flash.
> We needed Java before we had good JavaScript.  Now we have good
> JavaScript.
> I repeat... Java had its day.  Time to move on.

Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the
only good solution?

I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is
evident.  I have yet to miss Java in any way.  What problems would it
solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach?

Sterling (Chip) Camden    | sterling at | 2048D/3A978E4F |        |
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