Canon printer and TurboPrint

Polytropon freebsd at
Thu May 28 21:07:07 UTC 2009

On Thu, 28 May 2009 16:43:10 -0400, Jerry <gesbbb at> wrote:
> You statement, "buy 
> things to HAVE them" makes no sense.

I may politely disagree. I know several people who bought a
new high-end PC and stuff for more than 3000 Euro and are
treating it as a worse typewriter. Some stuff has never been
used - it just sits on the table to make its ownler look
wealthy and smart.

> Of course they buy something
> because they want it.

In some cases, they want it in order to have it (or the intention
to show it to others).

> Do you buy products that you do not want?

If I needed the product... okay, that can be seen as wanting,
too. For example, I didn't want to buy a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex,
but requirements made me need it - I was completely comfortable
with the Laserjet 4.

> And
> yes, I buy things to have them. Why else would I buy them?

The statement was like "ONLY to have them" (with the slight
connotation of "have them, but not use them").

> Basic law of marketing is to give the public what they want. Any first
> year business student knows that.

And because many customers simply do not know what they need,
and in conclusion do not know what they want, seem to want the
same as the rich neighbor has - or "the same pictures like
at work".

> The statement that "The worst
> solution always prevails" is totally bogus.

Is it? I don't think so. USB, for example, was fine for things
like keyboards and mice, but is used for nearly everything
today - even in the times of USB 1 that was really slow and
needed polling (instead of IRQ); inkjet printers, inferior
in price and quality to laser printers; flat panel screens
with strange color interpretation; the mouse with only two
buttons; autodetection that does not work; CDs and DVDs not
the size of a MD; "Windows", ... I could go on for hours. :-)

It's just my personal observation that is confirmed nearly
every day.

> >Low enough that making products for them isn't a business.
> >
> >>> As windows user may get scared hearing the word "unix", [...]
> Yes, vary similar to how unix users feel about "plug & play".

Personally, I don't have a problem with plug & play. All my
hardware works that way: I plug it in, and it just works.
This has nothing to do with "Windows" - I have it in UNIX
all day long. :-)

Furthermore, UNIX doesn't exist in the "Windows" zone.

> Actually, when it costs me $49. to re-ink a cheap printer and only $39.
> to buy a new one, is is almost easier to simply swap the old one out, 
> then give it away as a donation and take the tax credit. I have actually
> done that by the way.

For example, I'd accept inkjet printers only with full cartridges.
If empty, I'd throw it away. :-)

No, seriously: I don't own an inkjet printer and never have, and
I think I never will, instead save some money for a color laser
printer, but actually, I don't need to print in color. I have a
neighbor who does this kindfully for me (but I never used that

> Actually, I have an old Canon bubble jet 6000 that still works although
> it is on its last legs and probably ten years old.

That's the good thing with older hardware: It seems to last
longer than "modern" stuff. As I said, I own a Laserjet 4 for
more than 12 years now and always heavily used it. My keyboard
is even older, nearly 20 years old. Let's see how much "modern"
stuff from today will still work in 2030. :-)

> In any case, with
> most simple printers being dirt cheap, why should I care it they last
> twenty years or not.

Throw-away society.

> Now, buying a $3000 color laser jet is a totally
> different matter.

Yes, definitely not my price class at the moment.

>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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