How to move vi to /bin

Chris Rees utisoft at
Tue May 19 08:19:53 UTC 2009

2009/5/14 Mel Flynn <mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at>:
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 12:38:30 Chris Rees wrote:
>> 2009/5/13 Mel Flynn <mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at>:
>> > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:34:43 Michael Powell wrote:
>> >> Kind of like how those coming over from a
>> >> Linux environment all seem to want to change root's shell to bash, it
>> >> serves no purpose except foot-shooting.
>> >
>> > - csh cannot redirect stderr seperately from stdout
>> > - on pipes the exit status from the first command is the exit status of
>> > the total command
>> > - will not expand matches without a user provided part, for *every*
>> > component of a path
>> >
>> > There's plenty of reasons not to use csh and if you know what you're
>> > doing, BSD lets you. And no, I don't want to type exec zsh when I'm
>> > finally logged into the box that has a load of 100+.
>> I think the problem with that is he meant changing the root shell to
>> /usr/local/bin/bash. You're better off using /bin/sh if you want a
>> Bourne-type shell, or using toor with /usr/local/bin/bash.
> sh is worse then csh. <snip>

What do you mean by that? What is 'worse' about /bin/sh? It has none
of the quirks csh has.

> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:03:25 Chad Perrin wrote:
>> I've never understood the resistance to just use toor instead of root if
>> one wants a nonstandard administrative shell.
> Habit, mostly. toor is one way of doing things, just changing the shell is the
> other. Maybe it's my paranoia that I might be running software that does
> string matches for root logins, rather then uid to disallow access ;)

Your software is broken then, and you should email the maintainer. I
doubt that ever actually happens.


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