I'd like some help
jamesh at lanl.gov
Mon Mar 24 10:45:26 PDT 2008
On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 18:03 +0100, Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> On Windows, I can really recommend the freeware burner program CDBurnerXP:
> Christian Zachariasen
On Windows XP, I usuall recommend infrarecorder:
It's a nice FOSS CD burning application.
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc at msu.edu> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 02:58:24PM -0700, Matthew Woodson wrote:
> > > I've been learning about a bunch of the BSD OSes, and i want to try Free
> > > BSD, but i can't figure out how to download it and the instructions
> > don't
> > > make sense. I am running Windows XP OS- can you tell me how to download
> > > Free BSD with it?
> > Well, you generally want an ftp client. Use it to ftp to:
> > ftp.freebsd.org
> > Use 'anonymous' for login id and your email address for password.
> > >From there cd to pub/FreeBSD/releases (NOTE that case is
> > significant)
> > At this point, you need to know the type of machine. It is most
> > likely i386 or amd64. amd64 is for the AMD64 processor. i386 is for
> > all of the regular INTEL type processors that regular PCs use and your
> > most likely choice.
> > So, cd to i386 and then ISO-IMAGES
> > Then you have to select the version.
> > I would suggest starting with 7.0
> > cd cd to 7.0
> > So that ends you up in:
> > pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.0
> > Then download the necessary ISOs.
> > If you have a reasonable internet connection, you can install over
> > the net. That is really the best if you can do it.
> > In that case, you only need the file 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.ISO
> > If you hav a slow or unreliable network connection, then you may
> > also need disc2 and even disc3. They have the ports' source code
> > on them.
> > Presuming disc1 is good enough,
> > burn the file to a cd. Note that the file is already an ISO and
> > doesn't need to be converted. It needs to be burned as a raw file
> > to the CD. Some cd burner utilities make this a bit confusing.
> > Each is a little different.
> > You now need to decide how to divide the hard disk and if you will be
> > putting only FreeBSD on the harddisk or sharing one with some other
> > OS such as something from Microsloth (called dual booting).
> > In any case, you have to have a slice dedicated to FreeBSD.
> > Note that FreeBSD UNIX uses the term slice but Microsloth uses the
> > term 'primary partition' to refer to a slice. The UNIX slice and
> > the MS primary partition are essentially the same and are compatible.
> > In BSD, a slice is further divided in to 'partitions'. Microsloth uses
> > 'extended partitions'. But those MS extended partitions are completely
> > different and incompatible with UNIX partitions.
> > If you are sharing a disk, you will need to use some utility to
> > shrink the existing disk allocation to make room for FreeBSD.
> > Only 4 slices/primary partitions (names 1..4) are allowed on a disk in
> > current systems. Typically a major vendor puts some proprietary
> > diagnostic
> > and hardware utilities in the first [small] slice and marks it hidden.
> > Hidden is only meaningful to Microsloth systems. It remains visible to
> > UNIX.
> > Then they put the MS OS (XP or whatever) on slice 2 and make that slice
> > contain all the rest of the disk, leaving slice 3 and slice 4 empty
> > and unused. So, to fit FreeBSD on the disk, it becomes necessary to
> > shrink that slice 2 to free up some space to allocate to another slice -
> > most likely slice-3.
> > I have used a commercial utility called Partition Magic successfully
> > in the past to manipulate the slices and make room. That was with
> > a version 7.0 of PM which was put out by a company called Power Quest.
> > But, it got sold and the new owner put a version 8.0 which has not
> > been as successful as far as I can see. I tried to use it to slice a
> > USB disk and it would not talk to it, even though its promotional
> > literature made a special point of advertising it would. So, I returned
> > it for a refund.
> > In consequence I get a utility called Gparted, made the boot floppy and
> > was quite successful with using it to manipulate the disk. Just do a
> > little search with google and find it and download it. It works fine.
> > There are some other freeware utilities out there, but most will not
> > work with the NTFS type Microsloth filesystem which is common nowdays.
> > So, check on that. Gparted seems to handle it OK.
> > Anyway, lets say you carve out a nice 40 GB of disk for FreeBSD and that
> > is in slice 3 - a common circumstance. If you have a whole disk to
> > decicate to FreeBSD the rest of this applies. You just don't need to
> > go through the gyrations to make room on a shared disk and the disk name
> > is slightly different - probably ad1 instead of ad0.
> > Once you have space on the disk to fit FreeBSD, then boot up the
> > FreeBSD install CD. Choose the appropriate location to do the install.
> > That will probably be ad0s1 if you are making FreeBSD the only OS on the
> > machine or ad0s3 of a shared drive or ad1s1 of a dedicated second
> > drive.
> > Choose that and then divide the slice as needed/desired. This becomes
> > almost a religious issue and there are many reasons for doing it many
> > different ways. The main ideas are: use a single partition, plus swap,
> > or choose the defauly divisions, or a newer division scheme that takes
> > in to consideration that sizes have grown in recent years.
> > Note, the rule of thumb for swap is 2.2 X the RAM size, but some people
> > use more or less of swap. There are reasons for each choice.
> > Single plus swap is two partitions.
> > One partition is root (/) on partition a All but swap
> > the other is swap. no mount on partitino b 1 GB or more
> > Default division has a small root, swap of 2.2 RAM, small /tmp
> > My updated default is:
> > a mounted on / 256 MB
> > b no mount point 2.2 GB (for 1 GB memory)
> > c describes slice - do not use
> > d mounted on /tmp 768 MB
> > e mounted on /usr 2 GB (a lot more if I use a lot of
> > ports)
> > f mounted on /var 4 GB (more if I use a database)
> > g mounted on /home remainder of slice
> > Once I get these established and things loaded/installed, I often
> > move /usr/ports and /usr/src in to /home and make symlinks
> > and /var/spoot and var/log also in to /home with symlinks. By
> > doing that they have more room to grow without worrying about some
> > rogue process killing the system.
> > Go on and choose things to install. Mostly you want the ports
> > system and X-org.
> > After you get this installed and some configuration done - follow the
> > handbook on these - do a csup and rebuild things to make sure you
> > have all the latest security updates and ports fixes and improvements.
> > Then go through ports and install things you want. Probably these
> > will include OpenOffice, Firefox and associates, and maybe MySQL
> > and PHP and Perl. I have a few other standard ones including a
> > couple of games and drawing programs and system management aids.
> > If you want to use this machine for Email, it already has sendmail
> > which you can just start using. It will be ready to turn on.
> > Learn to use vi. It is really easy once you get used to it (famous
> > last words) and most importantly, it available on all UNIX systems,
> > regardless of which other editors might be available. I have a tutorial
> > about how to learn a simple vi on my website. I don't remember the
> > exact address and that system is currently shut down - which it is now
> > and then for some special work - but start with:
> > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/ <http://z2.cl.msu.edu/%7Ejerrymc/> and
> > look around. It is easy to fine.
> > Have fun. After screwing stuff sufficiently and in the course of
> > things, accidently learning something, then start over from scratch
> > and set it up more to your liking.
> > ////jerry
> > >
> > >
> > -Thanks, Matthew
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