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Tue Jun 3 20:44:46 UTC 2008

Well I think it's a space hopper
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=space%20hopper&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

(and Mary is not my aunt)

Chris
Beastie fan

Camilo Reyes wrote:
> It was started by a question posted about wanting help for a certain project. See below.
>  Camilo
> "Bono Vince Malum"
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:44:35 -0300
>> From: Gonzalo Nemmi 
>> Subject: Re: logo
>> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
>> Message-ID: <200806021944.35302.gnemmi at gmail.com>
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>> On Monday 02 June 2008 18:48:56 Frank Shute wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 06:57:00PM +0000, Pollywog wrote:
>>>> On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 bridd at bridd.com wrote:
>>>>> I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD !
>>>> I am a little confused.  I just see a sphere with "horns" on it that
>>>> reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less
>>>> "demonic".  Is it supposed to be something else?
>>> It's the FreeBSD equivalent of the Rorschach inkblot test. Some people
>>> see a daemon's head and other's see a sex toy.
>>>
>>>> If it is one of those "toys" is that what FreeBSD folks really want
>>>> to project as an image?
>>> The image is only in the beholder's eye. It would likely have sent
>>> Mary Whitehouse* apoplectic if she'd seen it ;)
>>>
>>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse
>>>
>>> Regards,
>> May I ask where was it that this thread started?
>> I'd pretty much like to get the whole picture of what is being discussed .. 
>> I did dig the list archives but couldn't find the first mail of this thread ..
>> So .. any pointers will be greatly appreciated
>>
>> Thanks =)
>> -- 
>> Blessings
>> Gonzalo Nemmi
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 30
>> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:03:40 -0700
>> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" 
>> Subject: RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
>> To: "Pollywog" ,
>>     
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>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pollywog
>>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:57 AM
>>> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
>>> Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 bridd at bridd.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD !
>>>>
>>> I am a little confused.  I just see a sphere with "horns" on it 
>>> that reminds 
>>> me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less "demonic".  Is it 
>>> supposed to be something else?
>>>
>> No, that is what it's supposed to be.
>>
>> The sex toy issue is that you saw the sphere with horns AFTER you
>> saw Beastie.  So you had a frame of reference, and naturally assume
>> it's Beastie's head.
>>
>> The problem is, think about people who have NEVER seen Beastie before
>> seeing the sex toy logo for the first time.  Since they have no
>> frame of reference they can easily assume that it means anything
>> at all.  Such as the business end of a French tickler, which it
>> kind of resembles.
>>
>> When those of us in the know call it a sex toy, we are making
>> a little inside joke, as we are basically saying the logo design
>> is terrible because it does not indicate to anyone looking at
>> it what it is supposed to represent.
>>
>> The Linux penguin is no different - someone seeing a Penguin
>> isn't going to know it has to do with an operating system, either.
>>
>> Many corporate logos also suffer from the same problem.
>>
>> The difference between the corporate logos and Linux and us, is
>> that those organizations have the marketing muscle to take their
>> rediculous logo designs and pound them into the public conciousness
>> through endless advertising.
>>
>> See a blue oval?  Most people think "Ford"  Not because a blue
>> oval has anything to do with cars.  It's because Ford has dumped
>> trillions of dollars in advertising over the years pounding that
>> association into the public mind.
>>
>> The designer of the FreeBSD logo approached it from the usual corporate
>> arrogance of we can create anything we want, then just pay money
>> for the association.  The only problem is that the FreeBSD project
>> has no money to spend to create this association.  As a result the
>> logo completely fails in it's job.
>>
>> Arguably, there is also no public association between Beastie and
>> the FreeBSD operating system either, so in the long run we aren't
>> any worse off than we were.  (aside from the arrogant setting aside
>> of 20 some years of BSD Unix history)
>>
>> Ted
>>
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