Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

Da Rock rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au
Sun Dec 14 01:56:27 PST 2008

On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:46 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all?
> no. all i want is to stop all stupid topics about:
> - KDE/Gnome/other crap (or great things for somebody)
> BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF FREEBSD. FreeBSD has nothing to this, except 
> KDE/Gnome/whatever can be run on it
> - support of flash in Opera/Firefox/Whatever
> - support of new/hot (literally)/super/extra graphics cards from NVidia.
> While IMHO full graphics support (graphics support, not GUI) should be 
> part of kernel as driver, it isn't.
> As NVidia card Xorg module does need some kernel wrapper (no idea why) - 
> then there is nothing wrong for interested people to write it as ADD 
> - asking about bloat level, visual apperance comparision etc. between 
> FreeBSD with KDE and Windoze.
> because KDE ARE NOT PART OF FREEBSD, and FreeBSD on it's own doesn't have 
> (fortunately) any "desktop environment" so it can't be compared.
> if someone like to compare KDE with windoze - OK but NOT THIS GROUP!
> SO - please just stop ALL NTG topics here. this group really lacks 
> moderator. not someone that will remove posts he considers "lame" but all 
> that is off topic.
> Off topic=not about FreeBSD OS.

Things not run on FreeBSD could (and should) be considered off topic,
but if the software is run on FreeBSD (which is an OS, might I remind,
not an app) then it does concern FreeBSD- especially if it works
elsewhere (in the exact same method- ie kde on linux and freebsd, not
necessarily flash). LDAP and NSS is not actually a part of FreeBSD too,
neither is postfix, apache, xfce, etc. And yet you have nothing against
those. Beware what you advocate...

If you take this stance on THIS LIST then you will scare future
community members away, and this list will have nothing to talk about
(says something about how good FreeBSD itself is). If someone takes a
step and asks about FreeBSD from a window$ perspective, M$ is NOT an
alternative- obviously they've woken out their dream state to find a
nightmare, let them sharpen their claws in linux ok? Then they can come
better equiped and have a better understanding of how *nix works- don't
shooo them back to the nightmare world of Gates.

Commend users for stepping out of a hand fed state- don't snarl at them
and tell them they're too stupid.

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