stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?

[James Harrison]

On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 15:34 +0000, Chris wrote:
> On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway <kris at freebsd.org> wrote:
> > Tore Lund wrote:
> > > Ivan Voras wrote:
> > >> Dave wrote:
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>    How stable is FreeBSD 7 Beta 3? Is it near production are their any
> > >>> outstanding issues?
> > >> Probably no major bugs will be fixed between now and 7.0 so you might as
> > >> well start using it now.
> > >>
> > >> It's "stable enough" like all .0 releases, meaning you should throughly
> > >> test it for your own workload before using it in production.
> > >
> > > Just curious, what is the "official" forum for pre-release discussions?
> > > I notice there are some threads on the "current" list, but it seems to
> > > me that this is really "questions" stuff, since it is an upcoming release.
> >
> > freebsd-stable is probably best.
> >
> > > In any case, I tried the boot-only CD, and I was not able to install any
> > > packages during the install process.  Sysinstall aborted with Signal 11
> > > when trying to read INDEX from the ftp site.  Pkg_add from the command
> > > line seems to work, however, so it looks like I may get online from
> > > 7.0-BETA3 tomorrow.
> >
> > That is expected, packages are not available until later in the release
> > cycle.
> >
> > > Moreover, wasn't there supposed to be a new install program?  I have
> > > read some promising remarks about it, but it's certainly not part of
> > > 7.0-BETA3.  Personally, I would much rather type a long list of commands
> > > than use the old, rickety sysinstall.
> >
> > One is in early development, but not even complete let alone ready to
> > replace sysinstall.
> >
> > Kris
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> 
> Kris can I ask what sort of importance bugs that cause crashes (page
> faults) are?
> I reported 2 bugs before BETA1 both these bugs involved 7.0 getting a
> page fault and of course then stop responding requiring a reboot yet
> both PRs have had no response and both bugs are still present in BETA3
> I see minor issues been worked on such as responsiveness in desktop
> use whilst issues that cause system crashes are left unattended.  Is
> FreeBSD primarily a desktop os now and thats the new path?
> 
> Try this.
> 
> Login to twice on ssh.
> If not root su both to root.
> using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty.
> on the first tty type 'killall watch'
> you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer
> is counting down.
> 
> Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults.
> 
> This is nothing to do with hardware very repeatable behaviour happens
> for me on at least 4 different freebsd 7 servers, if I compile world
> with -O not -O2 the default it stops reboot causing page faults on
> some of the servers.
> 
> Chris
> 
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This looks like your bug:

>Description:
when using the command killall watch with at least 1 active watch process running the kernel gets a page fault and reboots.



Is the above the behaviour that's the problem, or is the behaviour you
describe in your email the issue? I can confirm the stuff in your email,
but haven't tried using killall watch when watch is using other options.

James