is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

Nikolas Britton nikolas.britton at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 01:52:32 UTC 2007


On 1/10/07, Chris <chrcoluk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch <jgrosch at mooseriver.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc at msu.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers.
> > > > >Seems like you just posted a nice list of things
> > > > >for you to get busy and contribute.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as
> > > > well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just
> > > > work... so I can get real things done.
> > >
> > > Yah, well the people doing it are also busy and working at things
> > > which are supposed to make them a living.   Most make their
> > > FreeBSD contribution work on the side - in addition to their
> > > paying jobs although some are in the fortunate position of working
> > > for someone who recognizes it as also contributing to their
> > > productivity on the job.
> > >
> > > There are many ways to contribute.  Not all are writing code.
> > > Some are in documentation and in other services.   And, although
> > > it is a volunteer project, it does require money to support such
> > > things as servers and test machines and network access.
> > >
> > > So, if you cannot contribute time and effort and your business is
> > > so valuable, then consider contributing money - to support someone
> > > to work in the project, at least part time.
> > >
> > > If you only want to get something for nothing, then you live
> > > in the wrong world.
> >
> >
> > Hear, hear.
> >
> > Nikolas, there are many things that FreeBSD need, a large number of them do
> > not require programming. As a Christian here is a saying that I'm sure you
> > are familiar with, "It's better to light one candle than to curse the
> > darkness". So brother Nikolas, what candles have you lit today? You
> > certainly have produced a lot of smoke.
> >
> > One of the things you could have done instead of wasting your and our time
> > on this thrash is to sit down a write a detailed description of some of the
> > things you find lacking in FreeBSD. By detailed I mean a series of bullet
> > points that describe what is the problem, what you tried, what your setup
> > was, OS version, hardware configuration, etc. This would be a whole lot
> > more helpful than standing on a street corner and screaming, "FreeBSD is
> > FUCKED! Linux is taking over!"
> >
> > Many hands make lite work. Are you going to lend a hand or are you going to
> > stand on the sidelines and tell us how we are screwing up. If it is going
> > to be the latter please go away, we have more than our fair share of Monday
> > morning quarterbacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Josef
> >
> > --
> > Josef Grosch           | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 6.1
> > jgrosch at MooseRiver.com |   Micro$oft free world  | Berkeley, Ca.
> >
> >
> >
>
> What I think freebsd needs.
>
> 1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one
> such example is NFS.
> 2 - A better installer, this is probably the biggest single thing that
> puts people of freebsd, the less people using freebsd the less funds
> likely to be recieved.


Could you articulate on point 2?... I don't really see that as a problem.


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