Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay

Bart Silverstrim bsilver at chrononomicon.com
Tue Mar 29 13:27:27 PST 2005


On Mar 29, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Bart Silverstrim writes:
>
>> It's deduction.
>
> It can't be.  There's nothing to deduct from.

Your description of the problem.

> Tell me again what those messages said, exactly?

Can't.  I didn't tell you the first time.

>> Really?  I have a free program running on my NT machines, ntpdate I
>> believe is the name, that just hammers the registry with requests
>> constantly.  I'd never have known it was querying it so much if it
>> wasn't for regmon.  *Contant* hits.  dunno why, doesn't seem to hurt
>> anything...thus I ignore it.  NT doesn't seem to care.  Only gets in
>> the way when I'm troubleshooting registry errors.
>
> So where's the problem?

No one could be this dense without some psychological problem.

It shouldn't be hammering the registry.  It is.  The system doesn't 
seem to care, doesn't report any problem.  I only saw it because of 
another diagnostic program.

Maybe in some cases, hardware gives diagnostic codes or errors that the 
OS doesn't deem important enough to share.  NT errs to the side of 
silence.  That's what my other examples were about.

>> I've already told you I had a scsi bus reset problem what showed up
>> under Linux but not NT several years ago.  But you probably ignored
>> that.
>
> Did someone fix Linux?

No, the user swapped the hard drive.  This is a tough concept for you 
to wrap your head around, isn't it?

>> I've had power supply fans that have lasted for years despite making
>> odd noises that are indicative of impending failure.  It's not unheard
>> of.
>
> Years without a failure is not impending failure, no matter what noises
> you hear.
>
> Some fans are inherently noisy.

Funny how this one had a bad bearing in it, and an identical power 
supply (see, there's that funny comparison to identical hardware thing 
for troubleshooting...you might have heard of this technique...) did 
NOT make this noise.

It was a bad bearing.  Replacing the power supply made Mr. Weird Noise 
go away.

>> That's nice.  Some hardware is being a pain.  People here either 
>> ignore
>> you at this point or tell you to replace that controller and/or disks
>> and see what it takes from there.
>
> Yes.  But I'm still hoping that someone might provide a truly useful
> answer sooner or later.

They did!  Replace the controller with a generic one and get matching 
drives, replace the OS with NT again, or get another computer to test 
it on.  All are useful answers.  All of them would most likely work.  
Some hopeful people still naively think that suggesting things like 
filing a PR with the actual developers or suggesting fixes from their 
own experience would be enough for you to try for fixes...HA HA!  Silly 
rational people.  Ted, you need to shut up.  Stop trying to help him.  
And you too, whoever keeps raising your hand with the PR filing idea.  
We were all idiots for thinking Anthony would be rational.  We'll leave 
him to sit and stare at his broken server and contemplate the source 
code for the hidden meaning of the archaic error.  Most of us simply 
replace the error-generating parts and move on...but he hangs 
tenaciously to the bad proprietary firmware, and demands an 
unreasonable diving into the source code on a user-run list and tells 
everyone who offers some form of advice or experience that they're 
immature children for not fixing his eight-year-old Vectra.

Just shut up.  Everyone shut the hell up.  It's not worth it, because 
after the constant back and forth, the claim that he had MS do 
something for him but he doesn't remember what, the re-iteration that 
NT is superior superior superior, the "huh?" to a reference to a IIe, 
the "Linux is for kids" statement,... it's is so abundantly clear that 
the assertion is made of GLASS that this guy must be insane.  Insane!  
He's here just to stir up trouble!  Hee Hee!  That's it.  It has to be.

GO REINSTALL NT AND BE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF.  Leave the volunteer user 
list alone.  Begone, daemons, I hereby remove you from my rc.d 
directory!  You are a hopeless case!  hopeless.  You insult the very 
people you demand help you and wonder why they want you to jump in a 
lake!?  Unless you're actually an AI....is that it?  Purely existing on 
mailservers and routers?  Some formless, shapeless AI?  Otherwise, 
you're just a troll or wackjob stirring up trouble for fun.  Begone!  
Do not come again unless you bear proof you have submitted your problem 
as an actual PR, or proof thou hast spoken to actual developers on the 
project for help!

Everyone else...SHHHH.....he'll go away if he thinks we're not home 
anymore...tee hee...



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