Adaptec AAC raid support

Theo de Raadt deraadt at cvs.openbsd.org
Sat Mar 19 14:05:29 PST 2005


> I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats.

You are insulting me on public lists.

You are, thus, also telling your users not to bother your beloved
Adaptec.

You're telling them what the binary which you worked on is the best
they are going to get.

> I'm enabling FreeBSD 
> users to use the resources that are available to them.

By attacking my efforts, you are telling them that the aaccli you
worked on is the best they are going to get, and that participating
with what I am doing is foolish.

> That's quite 
> different than cancelling developer work and threatening to remove a
> driver due to a political dispute.

The driver is not shipping because traction must be gained against a
vendor who you are apologizing for.

> Freedom isn't about coercing others
> to believe the same things that I believe.

Freedom is something one fights for.  Freedom is not something that
just happens.

Freedom is something that happens when someone puts their toes out there,
with a stance, an attempt, a struggle.

Freedom is not something that happens when Scott long makes apologies
for Adaptec and slags Theo on public sites ... when Theo decides to
use his project to take action against non-freedom from a vendor.

I am trying to do something to create greater freedom.  You are not
helping with my effort.  Nor are you are not standing on the sidelines.
You're FIGHTING ME.  You are on Adaptec's closed side.

> I personally don't care about Adaptec anymore, but I do care about the
> people there.

More than you care about getting the best freedom for FreeBSD or *BSD,
or about the *other* people in the FreeBSD who might want that effort.

No.  You would rather stand up for the people at Adaptec.

> If LSI or whoever else can provide better support, then
> that's fine with me.  I do however have quite a bit of experience in
> knowing how things work at Adaptec and knowing what compromises can be
> made.

Then help me.  Don't slag me.

> Adaptec isn't one person, it isn't Doug Richardson or any other
> single individual.  They do make a whole lot of stupid mistakes and
> close doors on opportunities, but there is no reason to vilify Doug
> for it.

Then help me.

I am not vilifying Doug.  Doug said we should go through him.  Now he's
getting mails from people, because he said we should go THROUGH HIM.


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