freebsd as the basis for something better?

Nikolas Britton nikolas.britton at
Mon Jun 27 03:10:22 GMT 2005

On 6/26/05, el-sino at <el-sino at> wrote:
> hey!
> i'm curious about all these new operating systems,
> that all claim to be the next generation.
> there are many out there. plan9, hurd, eros, movitz. and many
> vaporware projects as well, such as lainos. but they all want to
> reinvent the wheel. i think this approach is wrong. instead, we
> should try to attach the wheel to its vehicle, and make sure its
> road is alright. not to mention; going the right way.

Hey don't bash plan9, they have some cool ideas and unix would not
exist if it wasn't for bell labs (AT&T back then) but mainly I just
like glenda (the one in the space suit), can we change the beastie to
> a project where real unix would meet real life, or where open
> source would meet open minds -- would have to make unix more human-
> oriented rather than machine-oriented. and in addition to bringing
> order to the chaos that was laid as the foundation for all unix
> variants decades ago, it should also deal with new ways of
> interacting with unix visually. for instance, in ways more
> convenient than x, and its conventional graphical user interfaces
> (though these won't go away any time soon).

UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.
New gui tools are needed. lets bring the CLI tools to the GUI, like
pipes, redirects, etc. some of apples ideas are nice aka NeXTSTEP. Why
are we trying to emulate windows when mircosoft just steals it's
idea's from apple? lets cut the middle man out. BeOS was cool too.

> ofcourse we'd have to get out of the code-only rut, and try to
> incorporate more natural elements from the ground up. such as
> design, like that conceived through real life architecture etc.
> having style doesn't mean it's commercial.

what's that mean?
> i'm curious whether anybody would like to team up with me, to try
> and map out the ideas for how a real next generation unix would be.
> i'll soon have a pdf ready for those who are interested. in my
> humble opinion, this would be a great way for you to make bsd the
> way you've always wanted it.

I'm not a programmer so I'm not sure how I could help you.

> i guess that's it;


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