Demon license?

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at toybox.placo.com
Fri Jul 22 03:41:11 GMT 2005



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>Subject: Re: Demon license?
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>"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>
>> Greg Lehey said:
>>
>> "I'm sure we would object if someone drew a 'devil' image and
>> associated it with FreeBSD."
>>
>> Re-read this please.  "DEVIL" image?  What is that?  Devil in
>> this context is a religious term.  So what Greg is really saying
>> here is that "we" would object if someone drew a religious image
>> and associated it with FreeBSD"
>
>You are quoting out of context.
>
>Greg wasn't referring to Beastie as devil, the person before him was.

That would be me, and no I was not as I've explained twice now.

>Greg was intentional "misunderstanding" that Beastie was meant with
>devil. At least that's how I understood it.
>

Greg doesen't generally post to that level of complexity.  What he is
objecting to is pretty straightforward - Beastie isn't a devil.  Well
the word "devil" is a religious term, so what Greg means is that
"Beastie isn't a religious icon and anyone's use of the word 'devil'
in conjunction with Beastie carries the incorrect connotation that
Beastie is a religious icon"

If your disagreeing with that, then are you supporting the idea that
Beastie looks like a devil AKA icon objectionable on religious grounds?
Because that is the converse of what Greg is saying.

Greg took my meaning as Beastie=devil, not  "devil-looking-image could be
drawn and associated with FreeBSD by anyone"

I realize that the idea I was attempting to convey was more complex and
deeper than a 2 second sound bite.  Please carefully reread the thread
and
I think you will understand it better.  When I used the word "devil" in
the sentence I was meaning a graphical drawing of a red being with horns
and a tail, and that should have been apparent.  I was not meaning the
Catholic religious interpretation of the word "devil" meaning Satan.

It is a sad commentary on the power of the religious conservative
movement that you can't even use the word "devil" to mean anything
other than "Satan" in a sentence anymore.

Greg objects to the term "devil" in association with Beastie because
he knows that too many stupid people cannot make this distinction
anymore, and it's safer to simply not use the word "devil" anywhere
near FreeBSD or Beastie so as to avoid these stupid people from
claiming FreeBSD is a satanic operating system.

I disagree with this because I will always choose to fight against
ignorance rather than just accept it and make up some politically
correct mealymouthed excuse.  Sure, some stupid people cannot be
educated into understanding that the Beastie image isn't an image
of a devil, because they believe that the only possible interpretation
of the word "devil" is Satan.  I would rather work to educate them,
like I'm working to educate you, that not all uses of "devil" are
religious.  If you or they cannot accept this, then go to Hell. ;-)

Ted



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