Out of the frying pan...

[Joshua Tinnin]

On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John <john at starfire.mn.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John <john at starfire.mn.org> 
wrote:
> > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror.  On some web
> > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just
> > > is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page.  The CPU
> > > isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is
> > > waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility.  Then, as I
> > > said, on other web sites, it's just fine.  Sometimes is stops
> > > with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it
> > > pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it
> > > pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to
> > > the server. VERY odd.
> >
> > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some
> > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this
> > happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm
> > not entirely
>
> Thanks for your response, Joshua!
>
> Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I
> supplied, but it is not what's happening.  I can have my Windoze
> work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up
> these pages in a snap.  Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits
> there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network.

You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in 
your /etc/resolv.conf, like this:

nameserver      888.888.888.888

(the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your 
internal one, if you've set it up)

Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you 
haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if 
Konqueror is the problem.

> > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know
> > what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as
> > there are often page elements which depend on the placement of
> > other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK
> > this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle
> > this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the
> > KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something
> > about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for
> > them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct.
> >
> > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win
> > > 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD
> > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD
> > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working
> > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY)
> > >    a CD in my laptop multi-bay
> >
> > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom
>
> Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs.  4.x used to at least have an
> atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel
> just pauses and goes on without any message.
>
> It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the
> CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout
> message.  5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it.
> I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and
> NFS mount it to complete the installation.  Kludgy, but it works.
> OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good
> when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;)

That's strange. It appears to mount the CD and then unmount it, though 
I'm not sure. Do you have the correct drivers for your CD?

> > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it.
>
> I appreciate thoroughness.
>
> > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but
> > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my
> > hardware.
>
> Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had
> any caveats to yell out.  I've already heard from the folks on
> the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try.

Good luck. There be dragons.

- jt