Pruning the Ports Tree

[Graham North]

Hi Uli:
Thanks again.   There was an email from Mathew Seaman - however it came as
only attachments, and not knowing him I did not open them - there was not
text at all in the body of the email.
Maybe I will now open it..

I do not know anything much about inodes or file handles either... My
thinking was to just use brute force and chop away much of the ports
collection that I am not likely to need on my little web server.   There are
a myriad of ports for audio, games etc. not to mention X files.  That should
free up a lot of file handles.
I don't want to put everything into too much of a tizzy however the next
time I update them.  Probably the most sensible thing to do is simply remove
it entirely and just do single port upgrades as needs be.

Cheers,  Graham/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" <root at pukruppa.de>
To: "Graham North" <graham.north at telus.net>
Cc: <tim at typhoon.techvalley.ca>; <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree


> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote:
>
> > Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum:
> >
> > Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose
of
> > your last questions are.
> I wanted to know about your ressources, since your ports dirctory
> might grow very big, if you don't clean it up every now and then.
> Matthew gave some hints about that at the last part of his mail.
>
> I hardly know anything about inodes, but as far as I understand,
> you would have to reformat your entire filesystem to change
> anything about this.
>
> The simpliest way to update your system on a small hd
> would be to keep strictly to binary upgrades and installations.
> You won't need the ports directory then (neither the system
> sources in /usr/src).
>
> Another simple idea would be to get another small hd somewhere,
> devide it into two slices and mount one on /usr/ports and the
> other on /usr/src .
> This would give you enough space to do full rebuilds of your
> system and your ports.
>
> If you have enough patience and time you can also download single
> port directories from www.freebsd.org/ports, place them in
> appropriate directories and try to make install them.
> They will complain when they are missing some other port.
> I have done that to set up a samba printer server, but next time
> I will use binary packages.
>
>
> Uli.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > To answer though:
> > My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS.
> > /usr    ~ 778M
> > usr/ports ~247M
> > total /usr being used is ~595M  with about 183M free.
> >
> > The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles.
Remember,
> > those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being
> > used in file infrastructure.  Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of
file
> > navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there
are
> > now only 602 free!   Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored
part
> > of a friend's website and used another 300.
> > As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability.
> >
> > Thanks for any further advice you can give.
> >
> > Cheers,  Graham/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" <root at pukruppa.de>
> > To: "Graham North" <graham.north at telus.net>
> > Cc: <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later.
> >>>
> >>> I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree
> >>> update using CVSUP.  This generates several questions. 1) I
> >>> took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the
> >>> "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I
> >>> really want to do that?  Does it matter for a Ports only
> >>> updating?
> >> It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system
> >> with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or
> >> (probably) not.
> >>
> >> 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of
> >>> files.  My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few
> >>> hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory.  Can I
> >>> prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future
> >>> updates?  If it helps, my machine is not using X only command
> >>> mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made.
> >> For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd
> >> is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree.
> >> You can check the latter by
> >> # du -h -d 1
> >> (see # man du)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Uli.
> >>
> >>> Thanks for any help that can be offered.
> >>>
> >>> Graham/
> >>>
> >>>
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