Frontpage and jails and possible alternatives

[Bill Moran]

Tim Traver <tt-list at simplenet.com> wrote:

> Bill,
> 
> I use the latest mod_frontpage module with Apache 1.3.31...
> 
> I haven't tested whether or not it binds to *:80 or not when I specify an IP.
> 
> How are you specifying the IP in the conf file ? Are you just using Listen 
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 ?

Both of the following:

Listen xx.xx.xx.xx:80
BindAddress xx.xx.xx.xx

I have another server here (used for development) with a fairly vanilla Apache
install, and changing those same two settings causes it to do what I'd expect.

I can't find any directives in the Frontpage Apache config that might cause this
... but I suppose it's possible that I'm missing something.

> At 09:42 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> >Tim Traver <tt-list at simplenet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > Not sure what you mean that frontpage caused apache to bind to all
> > > IP's...it shouldn't...
> >
> >I agree.
> >
> > > The frontpage apache module should respect any of the virtual hosts or
> > > virtual IP's that you have set up in apache.
> >
> >It definately should.
> >
> > > The module is just a way for
> > > apache to run the fp.exe wrapper script around the frontpage binary. I
> > > don't know how it would even be able to force apache to bind to anything...
> >
> >Nor do I.
> >
> > > Are you sure about that ???
> >
> >Yes.  When I configured Apache to only listen on 1 IP address, sockstat then
> >showed it listening on that address in addition to *:80.  The exact same
> >config changes on a machine without fp installed resulted in the expected
> >behaviour.
> >
> >Now, I haven't been idle since I made that first post ... It seems there are
> >two frontpage ports, apache_fp and mod_frontpage.  I've got apache_fp 
> >installed.
> >
> >Anyone using mod_frontpage that can say whether it's better or worse?
> >
> > > At 07:38 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> > >
> > > >I just learned that if you run Apache+Frontpage, you can't teach Apache to
> > > >only listen on a single IP address.  For some reason, Frontpage causes
> > > >Apache to always bind to all IP addresses.  Somehow, this stupidity 
> > doesn't
> > > >really surprise me too much.
> > > >
> > > >The reason I wanted to do this is because I have a machine I want to
> > > >set jails up on, so I can run multiple instances of Apache.  But I didn't
> > > >want to mess with the existing Apache installation right now.
> > > >
> > > >Anyway ... in the long run I've got two choices:
> > > >1) Get Apache+Frontpage running in a jail so it will quit fscking up 
> > the other
> > > >    stuff I'm trying to do on this machine
> > > >2) Find some alternative to frontpage to provide frontpage services that
> > > >    behaves like a proper server.
> > > >
> > > >My questions are (respectively):
> > > >1) Does anyone have Apache+Frontpage successfully running in a 
> > jail?  I just
> > > >    thought I'd ask before I spent (wasted?) a lot of time trying to 
> > make it
> > > >    work.
> > > >2) Can anyone suggest an alternative to Apache+Frontpage?  I prefer 
> > scp myself
> > > >    (and there are even spiffy GUI scp clients for Windows) but many 
> > of these
> > > >    clients _insist_ on using Frontpage, so I _must_ continue to cater to
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > >TIA for any answers.
> > > >
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