Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and
paul van den bergen
pvandenbergen at swin.edu.au
Sun Nov 23 17:43:29 PST 2003
as usual, there has been a bit of a misunderstanding... being a loosely typed
language, Engliosh is difficult to communicate in :-0
Names, addresses and DNS are obviously different things.
I understand where IPv6 addresses come from (sort of).
I understand (sort of) how IPv6 works for DNS records relating names to IPv6
what I was really asking is: in the IPv4 world, name brokers "sell" names that
are then related to IPv4 addresses. Legality of the name choice etc. is
generally owner onus... Is there a similar sort of (or coincident) naming
authority for IPv6 based names?
if I operate a network, boxen1.example.org, boxen2.example.org, etc., as an
IPv4 address space and a second coincident network, boxen1.example6.org,
boxen2.example6.org, etc., as an IPv6 based address space, where does the
authority to allocate the IPv6-network based names reside?
the technical side of it is clear... someone somewhere needs to keep a track
of the names...
anyway, this is straying somewhat from the core subject matter of this list...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:30 am, Cordula's Web wrote:
> > how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as
> > fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the
> > restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are
> > the likely gottchas?
> I don't know for sure here, so please take this with a grain of salt:
> IPv6 addresses are represented by AAAA instead of A records in
> DNS nameservers. Right now, I think that you can only point
> .org (and other [cc]TLD) nameservers to nameservers residing
> on an IPv4 address [anyone correct me if I'm wrong here].
> But you could always configure your nameservers (let's say
> ns1.bergen.org, ns2.bergen.org) to return IPv6 addresses
> to some names, by adding AAAA records to them.
> But since IPv6 names are not (yet) globally routed on the Internet,
> this will have local meaning only (e.g. on an intranet).
> Generally speaking: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are _never_
> allocated by name brokers or DNS systems. They reside at
> a much lower level, which has nothing to do with _names_.
> If you connect to the Internet, your upstream provider(s)
> will assign to you IPv4 address blocks automatically.
> You would normally not be able to influence this, because
> it is deeply intertwined with the routing protocols that
> all network operators use to transmit data on the Internet.
> You may ask how network operators get their IP address
> blocks. Check out IANA: http://www.iana.org/ especially:
Dr Paul van den Bergen
Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures
pvandenbergen at swin.edu.au
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to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft.
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