good browser and java combo?

Han Hwei Woo hhwoo at
Fri Jun 20 13:26:46 PDT 2003

For someone on a BSD mailing list, you sure sound like a Linuz zealot.

1) Sun & IBM have made major contributions to the development of Linux. What
do you think SCO is accusing IBM of?
2) The GPL already does prevent all works and derivate works to be sold for
profit, and is quite restrictive in that sense. It's the BSD license that
allows for commercial use.
3) Solaris has many advanced technologies that are still in their infancy on

Han Hwei Woo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sweetleaf" <sweetleaf at>
To: "Jud" <judmarc at>
Cc: <freebsd-questions at>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: good browser and java combo?

> Thats sad, i cant believe Microshit is able to exploit others technology.
I guess in this world it will always come down to politics and money. As Mr.
Franklin said" there are always two things in life you can count on, death
and taxes". I am all for opensrc code, however i think the GPL and opensrc
community should change their license to disallow government and large
companies from taking the technology and using it for their own profit and
or against us. Look at Sun and IBM, they all have their own brand of linux
and several are using linux and bsd servers / computers to support their
business. They take, take and take but give nothing in return.  I say change
the license and make them shell out millions on inferior proprietary
operating systems such as slowaris.
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:14:22 -0400
> Jud <judmarc at> wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf <sweetleaf at>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need
> > > do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the
> > > I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns
> > > java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted
> > > switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a
> > > solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good
> > > support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing  how java started
> > > life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet
> > > is actually better at java then unix.
> > >
> > > Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera
> > > work with java?
> > >
> > > Thanks in ./adv
> >
> > Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question
> > about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite;
> > latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days).  I can
> > least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to
> > MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM.  Because of IE's
> > market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with
> > non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard
> > versions.  Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE
> > browser will have difficulty on many "Java" Web sites because it's not
> > using IE's virtual machine.
> >
> > Jud
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-questions at mailing list
> >
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe at"
> >
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions at mailing list
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe at"

More information about the freebsd-questions mailing list