good browser and java combo?

Jud judmarc at
Fri Jun 20 03:14:32 PDT 2003

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 04:01:03 -0500, sweetleaf <sweetleaf at> 

> I was wondering what browsers and java seem to work the best. I need to 
> do online banking and would like to use java applets such as the 
> I have tried both mozilla and netscap with suns current 
> java-runtime and have found them to be extermetly unreliable. I wanted to 
> switch from windows to unix for about 2 yrs but could never find a 
> solution to java, and that remains the case after 3 yrs. Why is good java 
> support in browsers so difficult in unnix, seeing  how java started its 
> life in the unix community. I cat believe windows and internet explorer 
> is actually better at java then unix.
> Any good lightweight browsers other than netscape, mozilla or opera that 
> work with java?
> Thanks in ./adv

Sorry that I haven't used Java enough in FreeBSD to answer your question 
about browsers (my rural area limited to 28.8K dialup and satellite; 
latter's too expensive, so installing Java is the work of days).  I can at 
least tell you, though, that the unreliability you see is simply due to 
MS's 'hijacking' of Java by use of a non-standard VM.  Because of IE's 
market share, the sites you want to use all are tested and work with IE's 
non-standard Java, but that's not the case for Sun's or IBM's standard 
versions.  Hmm, so maybe I've answered your question anyway - any non-IE 
browser will have difficulty on many "Java" Web sites because it's not 
using IE's virtual machine.


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