Verio mover to FreeBSD

Jeremy D. Pavleck judge at Pavleck.Com
Fri Aug 29 09:45:00 PDT 2003

Very well put! Almost sounds like a greeting card from Hallmark :-p

Jeremy D. Pavleck
jeremy at

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:35:46AM -0400, Jastonephd at wrote:
> > Why if Verio has moved our sites to you, are they still charging us $6,000 
> > per annum for hosting?
> > What is the viability of this server?
> > With the CA economy in dire straits, how secure is your future?
> FreeBSD isn't a for-profit corporation in the usual sense.  It's
> rather a world-wide collection of volunteers with a common aim: to
> produce the FreeBSD operating system.  As such it is much more
> resilient than any business.  Furthermore, as FreeBSD is an open
> source operating system, there's no possibility that the operating
> system itself will disappear, even if the current project membership
> does decide to give up and do something else.  There are hundreds of
> thousands of copies of the FreeBSD source code all round the Internet,
> and the BSD license terms specifically allow any usage of that code,
> commercial or otherwise so long as the appropriate copyright
> statements are maintained.
> Neither is the project particularly centered in or dependent on
> California. True, there are quite a few FreeBSD committers resident in
> that state, and major parts of the FreeBSD web infrastructure are
> located there.  Not all, however.  For example, one of the servers
> that makes up is actually located in Denmark.  If
> California were to finally fall into the sea, the FreeBSD project
> would still go on.
> Verio may have moved their hosting business to use FreeBSD, which will
> certainly have reduced their per-server licencing costs, yes.
> However, that would only have been a small part of their cost base
> before moving over.  The majority of the cost will be the running
> expenses of the hosting centers and the cost of bandwidth, both of
> which remain unchanged.  If you don't think you're getting value for
> money, then you can vote with your feet, or threaten to, and see if
> they'll negociate.
> 	Cheers,
> 	Matthew
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