Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

Carmel NY carmel_ny at
Sat Sep 30 18:12:03 UTC 2017

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:06:17 -0700, Kevin Oberman stated:

>On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Carmel NY <carmel_ny at> wrote:
>> Excuse my ignorance, but why was John Marino exiled?
>Not to state any opinion of my own, but John had his commit bit pulled
>after a long mail dialog about the utility of synth as a complete
>replacement for all older port updating tools save poudriere. It was
>claimed that John's messages were abusive and in violation of the FreeBSD
>"Code of Conduct". It is unclear to me whether this was in regard to pots
>to the mailing lists or included private responses to the mail list
>Core reviewed the messages and agreed that they were unacceptable. John
>disagreed and declined to retract his statements, so Core voted to withdraw
>his commit bit.
>The public details are available in the mail archives.
>John did state that he would continue to support synth. I can't say if he
>has continued to make contributions. In any case, only poudriere is
>available for maintaining ports in HEAD and I, for one, feel that it is
>simply unacceptable as it make FreeBSD unusable for those of us with only
>"small" systems where the weight poudriere simply can't be justified. (I
>have no system with other than SATA disk drives and, for my current needs,
>1 TB of SATA on my development system and .5TB on my production system is
>adequate. Both systems are physically constrained in expansion capability,
>though otherwise easily meet my requirements.
>As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not
>resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from
>FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this is
>not what happens.

I could not agree more. If this matter is not resolved before FBSD 12 is
released, I will have to start looking for a replacement for FBSD.


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