Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

Kevin Oberman rkoberman at
Sat Sep 30 17:06:19 UTC 2017

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Carmel NY <carmel_ny at> wrote:

> Excuse my ignorance, but why was John Marino exiled?
Not to state any opinion of my own, but John had his commit bit pulled
after a long mail dialog about the utility of synth as a complete
replacement for all older port updating tools save poudriere. It was
claimed that John's messages were abusive and in violation of the FreeBSD
"Code of Conduct". It is unclear to me whether this was in regard to pots
to the mailing lists or included private responses to the mail list

Core reviewed the messages and agreed that they were unacceptable. John
disagreed and declined to retract his statements, so Core voted to withdraw
his commit bit.

The public details are available in the mail archives.

John did state that he would continue to support synth. I can't say if he
has continued to make contributions. In any case, only poudriere is
available for maintaining ports in HEAD and I, for one, feel that it is
simply unacceptable as it make FreeBSD unusable for those of us with only
"small" systems where the weight poudriere simply can't be justified. (I
have no system with other than SATA disk drives and, for my current needs,
1 TB of SATA on my development system and .5TB on my production system is
adequate. Both systems are physically constrained in expansion capability,
though otherwise easily meet my requirements.

As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not
resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from
FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this is
not what happens.
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman at
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