[RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

Guido Falsi madpilot at FreeBSD.org
Fri Jun 23 14:34:01 UTC 2017

On 06/23/17 10:53, Guido Falsi wrote:
> On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.david at gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
>>> Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if
>>> somehow
>>> you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via
>>> some
>>> (as yet unspecified) mechanism?
>> I've also think about that but I'm not sure if it's easier than having
>> frozen release branches.
> I usually stay away from this kind of threads, but I'd like to point out
> a very simple concept that has not been expressed.
> The ports tree repository is fully open source, available via subversion
> from the FreeBSD project and also mirrored on github. There is
> absolutely nothing stopping you(and anyone with time, skill and
> willingness to help you) from starting your fork from whichever source
> and using whatever tool you prefer, creating the branches you're
> describing.
> If your model works fine I'm quite sure the FreeBSD community and
> project will be quite happy to embrace it.
> As stated, the FreeBSD project (core, portmgr and committers) perceive a
> manpower problem in relation to implementing what you describe. In this
> thread it has been stated that such a manpower problem does not really
> exist. I cannot think of a better way to show there actually is no
> manpower problem than creating a working example of such a workflow
> maintained by just a few people with little effort, as you said repeatedly.
> On other hand demanding and/or insisting that others implement your idea
> when they clearly disagree with you is not very constructive.
> In relation to the suggestion of a stable or release ports branch:
> I'd also like a ports branch where things are merged only when really
> needed, some kind of "stable" branch. I don't like the release way you
> describe, but maybe it could actually work as an option, but I too see
> the manpower problem. An actual working proof of concept like I
> described above is the only thing that would persuade me I'm wrong about
> that.
> (I could try to help with such an experiment but I don't know how much
> time I could really spare for it)

I'll rephrase that to avoid further confusion:

(If such an effort is started with a clear idea and program, which I
don't have on such a project, I can try to participate as manpower to
it, even though I can't dedicate much time to it)

Guido Falsi <madpilot at FreeBSD.org>

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