Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?!

Michelle Sullivan michelle at
Sun Feb 12 11:39:49 UTC 2017

Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:51:41AM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
>> Tell me....  What is the reason for me upgrading those few production
>> servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... bearing in mind the following:
> There isn't any ... oh, except for no new security updates.

But that's the thing isn't it... what security updates? If I take away 
the ports installed I don't actually think there is anything that can 
provide a security issue, at least not one that wouldn't be creating a 
massive ruck around the world... like the ability to hack the FreeBSD 
network stack etc...
> The flip side is the more important question.  Why should we ask
> developers to support a version of the OS that doesn't have:
>  From
>   * bhyve, drm2, rasbpi, nvme, several overhauled drivers and carp.

..and why can they not appear in 9.x...?

>  From
>   * mpr, mrsas, pms, autofs, other overhauled drivers.

...or these...?

ABI change?  Or is it the same ABI with updated drivers?
> I recommend folks reading this thread should examine those links.
> As for things removed from base, my understanding is:
>   * we have limited people to fix/regression test all the security problems
>     in base/ software.  A few notorious candidates have been factored out
>     into ports.

You have less people now I can guarantee you that.

>   * there is an overall drive to move to an entirely GPL-free base system.
>     Perhaps this is not important to you but there are others to whome this
>     is important.
> I have some other thoughts on this but I am being called away to deal with
> some other crisis ATM.

The GPL-free base system drive is driving stuff and will change things 
that I can see an OS upgrade/version change is called for... but why not 
get all of it done and put into 10.0 instead of driving forward with 
getting to 12.0 as fast as possible?


Michelle Sullivan

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