Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?!
michelle at sorbs.net
Sun Feb 12 11:39:49 UTC 2017
Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:51:41AM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
>> Tell me.... What is the reason for me upgrading those few production
>> servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... bearing in mind the following:
> There isn't any ... oh, except for no new security updates.
But that's the thing isn't it... what security updates? If I take away
the ports installed I don't actually think there is anything that can
provide a security issue, at least not one that wouldn't be creating a
massive ruck around the world... like the ability to hack the FreeBSD
network stack etc...
> The flip side is the more important question. Why should we ask
> developers to support a version of the OS that doesn't have:
> From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html:
> * bhyve, drm2, rasbpi, nvme, several overhauled drivers and carp.
..and why can they not appear in 9.x...?
> From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/relnotes.html:
> * mpr, mrsas, pms, autofs, other overhauled drivers.
ABI change? Or is it the same ABI with updated drivers?
> I recommend folks reading this thread should examine those links.
> As for things removed from base, my understanding is:
> * we have limited people to fix/regression test all the security problems
> in base/ software. A few notorious candidates have been factored out
> into ports.
You have less people now I can guarantee you that.
> * there is an overall drive to move to an entirely GPL-free base system.
> Perhaps this is not important to you but there are others to whome this
> is important.
> I have some other thoughts on this but I am being called away to deal with
> some other crisis ATM.
The GPL-free base system drive is driving stuff and will change things
that I can see an OS upgrade/version change is called for... but why not
get all of it done and put into 10.0 instead of driving forward with
getting to 12.0 as fast as possible?
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