Chris H bsd-lists at
Wed Jan 14 18:17:37 UTC 2015

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:18:07 +0000 Matthew Seaman <matthew at> wrote

> On 2015/01/14 15:34, Roger Marquis wrote:
> > So one difference then would be that Poudriere determines which
> > dependencies are run-time vs build-time and creates packages for those by
> > default, is that correct?  I can see how that might be convenient for
> > packages with a large number of dependencies (like sssd) but it also
> > seems like a lot of additional infrastructure simply to build binaries on
> > one host to be used by many.
> Poudriere by definition will create packages for all of the build- and
> run-depends, as it needs the build-depends packages itself in order to
> build everything.  It builds everything in temporary jails which it
> installs all the needed dependencies to, and then destroys after that
> package has been built.
> However, when you go to install a package from the repo, pkg(8) will
> only pull down the run-time dependencies of whatever you choose to
> install.  That means there are a good chunk of packages you simply don't
> need to have on your production servers any more.
> Yes, poudriere does a lot of stuff, but if you didn't use a central
> builder, you'ld end up replicating all of that stuff onto every machine
> you wanted to manage.  Poudriere itself can run on a fairly modest
> machine -- it depends on how many packages you need to build and how
> quickly you want them.  It's quite feasible to use poudriere for a
> small-ish repo on a machine at night, when it is otherwise quiet, and
> then use the same machine for something else during the day.
This might be a good place to put some links to how-to's for common
use-cases for poudriere. I see questions like this quite often on the
lists, and in the forums. Anyone have one?

>     Cheers,
>     Matthew
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