[RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering
david at vizion2000.net
Mon Dec 3 02:51:33 PST 2007
On Monday 03 December 2007 01:41:14 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:01:35AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at
> > least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should
> > remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates
> > if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have
> > volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what
> > changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this
> > thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the
> > following broad questions for people:
> You would have saved the community a couple of expensive
> bikesheds (and more to come, as usual) if you had cared to do
> some research. All of the questions you ask have already been
> answered hundreds of times on mailing lists over the years. By
> starting the cycle anew, I'm afraid, you're only contributing to
> the problem.
> There are heaps of papers on package management out there. Look
> for answers there and you will find them.
> Most of us have our own engineering demons, who breed Napoleonic
> plans in our heads - to solve every problem in a perfect way. The
> sooner we learn to control them, the better.
There are few demons in the heads of the freebsd community that require
controlling. Apart from the owning ones own prejudices here are my own
IMHO the demons in the head that encourage and justify the abuse of other
members of the communiity are the worst demons of all.
My own choice for the second group of demons in the head who require
elimination are those that encourage and justify members of the community who
want all community energy spend solely on their own ideas or upon problems
that personally affect them.
The third groupof demons I would select for immeditae eradication are those
that encourage and justify attacks on those who have the courage and energy
to either identify or attempt to address problems that are either symptomatic
or touch upon the status quo.
It is the operations of these three demons that the freebsd community has the
greatest need to fear and control.
There are three angels I would like to see us harness in greater number:
The first, depending upon which side of the atlantic we live, is the one that
encourages humor or humour in our dealings.
The second are those angels that encourage us to encourage others and thereby
build a flexible community mutually respectful of alternative points of
view, endeavours and values.
The third group of angels, and the one that I and many other members of the
freebsd community of trouble heeding, are the group of angels that speak to
us about pusuing goals with an appropriate combination of tenaciousness and
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